RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

If you take a trip to your local drag strip you'll find 99% of the cars using carbs, they are still better and faster than injection, I know,cause I run one myself. All these guys are right, it's the guy doing the shooting, not the equipment or the cams.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

One of the major pluses of the system and for that matter twin cams allso is that they stay in tune for a long period of time , another is they give good perfomance over a wider set of draw lengths than a single . Thats the reason mathews has all those cams , diferant cams for every 1/2 inch diferance in draw length . Hybreds allso inherit the single cams draw back of cabel seperation . I just got a winers choice cabel for my mavric extreme yesterday , had it on and tune in no time , but the point is its a problem , and $45 for a cabel is just another cost , I wish they would use better cabels or fix the inherant problem . Slight bitch I know but something we've all delt with for years , and made winners choice alot richer .

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I personally think the Nitrous-X cam system is the best on the market right now. Most people have misses right and left moreso than up and down as a result of the tune of the bow and this is the best system to eliminate all cam lean and torque. Cam lean causes nock travel in the horizontal plane and everyone is so worried about the nock travel in the vertical plane (which is easier to tune out the adverse affects). From an engineering standpoint, the 3-track system is superior.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

walks with a gimp,
I concede your point the the cam will not make the ultimate difference with out the proper amount of practice. this is true with any endeavor. It is also true that the archery is also driven in part by the almighty dollar, but if this cam system had no credibility then why would so many manufactures be jumpimg on the band wagon instead of just marketing some other form gadget, i.e. built in string silencers? My piont is why would you tool up for a new cam system, changing the dynamics of a pre-existing design just to jump on the marketing wave? The cost of the change along with the marketing and advertising could far outweigh the profits to be made. With many of us it is in the small details as we have already practiced enough to recognize the difference things like this can offer to our game. Do you not agree that you personally can tell the difference between the 25+ bows you have owned. Secondarly, if you could not tell the difference between them all, why keep switching? No offence is intended here,I am just a little curious, because when I have something that works I would have a tendency to stay with it, Right?

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

The Nitrous-X system? You mean there is such a thing?;) We've got a couple of VERY frustrated guys at my club that have had S-III's on order w/ Nitrous-X cams for over 9 WEEKS! with no end in sight....... I think that is horrible for a '04 bow that was released before the first of the year, yet still isn't available 1/4 of the way into the year.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

I am also agreeing the Darton has some very decent bows very much worth considering. For me it is the Tundra Extreme.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

The new Champion Scorpion, Liberty, Diablo & Eagle all come with the cam plus system this year. C/P/S---E/T/S!!! Hybrids, the best of both worlds, a blend of a single cam and a double cam, the end result, a hybrid is produced.
Champion bows are certainly on the move and I'm enjoying all the help I can get!!!

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

RobVos,
Where can I get more info on this Nitrous-X cam system?
Thanks, Mark

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

I think everyone does, but what everyone is pointing is that there is no evidence to back up the claims that Hybrids are superior. If they are superior then show me their domination in tournament archery, even local tournaments, and then I will agree with you. I mean even though top pros can win with anything, surely you would see them setting themselves a part in the "average Joe" ranks in local archery tournaments, wouldn't you? Or does it all boil down to the shooter? It's funny to see so many people spend so much time worrying about something that makes so little difference. Shoot something that is comfortable and that you have confidence in and the rest will take care of itself.

RE: "Hybrid cams"= "winds of change blowing"
 

mlaubner- the Nitrous-X system is from Martin Archery. You can check their website or go to Archerytalk.com and run a search for "Nitrous". You'll find a zillion threads on it....