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Here' s a test you can try.

Stand in front of a large mirror, facing it. Assume your normal shooting stance. Bring the bow up and draw straight back, slowly. When you get close to your face, watch your string hand elbow in the mirror. Don' t move your face out of your normal shooting position, just track it with your eyes. If your draw length is too short when you hit the stops, your elbow will be sticking out to the side. When your elbow comes in line with the string and arrow, you will be close to your true draw length. If your elbow comes in behind your head, your draw length is too long.

Not only is this a pretty fair test for draw length, it' s also a good test to find out if you' re overbowed. If you can' t draw the bow holding it straight out, slowly and under full control, then you' re pulling too much weight.

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Art,

I tried your test for draw length (without my bow) just to see how it may work. At first I THOUGHT that I could keep the same anchor point with my elbow out, then increase back tension to pull the elbow back and still keep the same anchor.

But, I did it a few times and then realized that as my back tension increased (pulling that elbow back, but not behind the head, with my release hand in my proper anchoring point), that my head naturally swiveled with the increased back tension bringing the elbow into proper position.

This is a really great test, superior to all of the measuring stuff out there (I never found factory draw lengths to be that accurate anyway). Thanks.

A thing that i see when people have to long of a draw is when they are sort of leaning back a little so that the string is in its proper position.....This should not bee done...you should be able to draw back and stand square with now leaning back of the upper boddy...so draw back in the mirror...do you lean back? if not then your good.