rtreenut

Another thing that has to be taken into consideration is that not all bows with the same brace hight and ATA are the same.You can have 2 bows the same brace hight and one have a more reflexed riser than the other one but they both have the same have the same brace hight due to the angle of the limb pockets. this effects accuracy in the way of tourqe. Some 7 inch brace hight bows will be more forgiving than some7.5 brace hight bows if they have more deflex in the riser design

Straightarrow

Speaking of relex, where are the measurements taken to determine the amount of reflex or deflex? Thanks,

Pinwheel,

I understood most of it, but not the 31/2 distance of travel on the shorter bow. I assume you meant 3 1/2". What travel distance are you referring to?

Pinwheel 12

rtreenut-
Go to www.merlin-bows.co.uk and click on "Tec Talk, then click on "Reflex vs Deflex". It covers what you are talking about,(you may be surprised) and some of the points I am putting across, as well.

Straightarrow-

Yes, the 31/2" (inches) is the longer distance the string has to travel from full draw to rest on the shorter ATA bow over the longer one due to design, limb angle, cam size, ATA, etc, for the given drawlength.

BC25--

You must give some thought to the application. If you are going to primarily hunt with the bow from a treestand, I'd opt for the MM. It's a great little bow designed especially for that, and can handle an occasional 3D. The ES would be a good choice for the guy who wants to do a fair amount of 3D shooting, but still use it as his hunting bow come fall. There are different bows for different applications, and lately this "new wave" of mid ATA bows with shorter brace heights has come into the picture trying to give the best of both Worlds. Problem is, they were not designed with anything truly specific in mind other than trying to cover everything. They are not as accurate or forgiving as any target equipment, and they normally have too short of a brace for hunting with heavy clothes.(anything with sub-7" brace is IMO too short nowadays) Being longer ATA will hamper you some if using heavy cover while in a stand. This is why I own a bow for each application, rather than one for all. Cost is always an issue, but I'd much rather go out knowing I have the best option for the task at hand. Good luck, good shooting, P12

Edited by - Pinwheel 12 on 01/04/2002 15:25:04

PABowhntr

Given the rest of the information you listed I would agree with P12's last paragraph.

If you are looking primarily for a hunting bow and you don't want to have to worry as much about having clothing getting in the way or a slight slip in your form then the larger brace height bow would be my choice.

FLHunter

Big,

There is nothing inheritantly inaccurate about short bows, high reflex risers, and short braceheights. However, you must have good form to consistantly shoot that design bow well. I just finished shooting the IFAA North American Field Archery Tournament and the fellow that won shot a Trophymaster bow (Jennings)which has quite a bit of reflex, is fairly short, and has a relatively low braceheight. He shot a 1635 out of 1680 in Bowhunter Freestyle Class scoring better than most of the Freestylers. Needless to say that archer is a rock and a real pleasure to watch shoot. My target bow has an 8" braceheight, deflex riser, and a 41" A to A for comparison. If you have a longer drawlength a short axle to axle bow may present you with some anchor problems because of the acute string angle created by the short axle to axle length.

JeffB

Yep..too many variables take a big part in accuracy other than brace and length...My current #1 bow is 34" axle to axle and i shoot it as accurately or more accurately than any longer bow I've had (Though generally a longer bow is more stable to shoot).


However, I have owned both of the bows you speak of (2001) models and I can say that the Mighty Mite is definitely more forgiving in my hands. Bowtech grips are fairly big, and any extra torque or mistakes show up more than normal when that brace height decreases. The Mighty Mite also balances and holds better both before and after the shot in your hand. It's no slouch if you are worried about speed either. It's as fast or faster than my Darton Maverick w/ over an inch higher brace height (though it has a harder draw force curve).

The Extreme Solo is definitely an apt name...it's an extreme bow. It's not nearly as critical to shoot as some ultra speed bows, but it's not what I'd call forgiving either.

If you would like forgiveness w/ some speed in the Bowtech line then go w/ a Pro 38 or Stalker. The new Patriot looks promising as well (and probably will be my next bow purchase).

JeffB

bogobble

well, I wish i hadn't read this thread! ya'll have confused the crap out of me!
One say's A/A is most important for accuracy, one say's braceheight is more
important. I think I'll just get a long A/A bow with a long braceheight<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>

PABowhntr

That would be your safest choice bogobble...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

Ky_Bowhunter

IMO brace height is more important than A-to-A. A short brace height can really bring out flaws in form. Short bows are easier to cant (hold crooked) but doesnt neccesarily make it less forgiving.