Thanks! That answers a question I have been pondering since Sunday. I have two bows, identical except one is 60# and one is 70#. They also have different strings. The 70#, my current deer hunting bow, has new vaportrail strings I put on 2-3 weeks before the season. Shot it a bunch, got it tuned right and it has been shooting laser beams since. The 60# bow has the Manufacturer string still, and it is a good string but.... I get the 60 bow out last sunday and it is shooting right by a couple inches at 30, 40 yds. When I hung it up a few weeks ago it was shooting laser beams too. I couldn't figure how it got out of tune just hanging there but I was thinking the string stretched/changed and caused it to start shooting weak. That makes sense now after reading what you said.

Where can I find how long of a string I need for my bow?

Also would I need the cables in addition to the shooting string?

bcvd, I would highly recommend a high quality set of strings and cables for your bow. IMO, the strings are the single most important part of your bow. They hold it all together!

I personally like 8125 material for all of my strings. My current bow, a 2007 Bowtech Allegiance still has the factory set on it. However, Bowtech uses very high quality strings on their bows and my peep, along with timing has not budged since approx 50 shots after buying the bow.

You'll pay a little more for good strings and cables...anywhere from 50-100 dollars, but they are very well worth the extra money.

so if i was to go with a vapor trail....I would need the shooting string...the Y cable...and the control cable...right? But that is all....I am just trying to make sure that if I get one I get everything I need.

Is your string wore out? Is your serving separating? Is your bow not shooting well?

I have had well over a dozen or so bows in my life, and it appears to be fashionable to change out strings and cables for the heck of it on this forum for some reason.

I see folks replying that a quality material put together poorly and such. So is your string/cable put together poorly?

It wasnt put together poorly as you can see from earlier where I was not going to buy one to now where I really want to. Today I got some new stuff put on my string and when he was taking off my old kisser button he put a nice little nik in my string. The one on there before had been way over tightened and he fought with it for a good 15 minutes to get it off. I don't think its much to worry about cuz it wasnt that big......but when I know of something like that, it gets in my brain and I can't stop worrying about it.....

The lengths should be on a sticker on the inside of the bottom limb. It might not be much of an issue though. Call almost any good string maker and they should already have this info.

I'm not an advertisement, but I highly recommend Bucknasty strings. They're made by a guy right here on tis site called Gibblet. Talk to him and he can give you more details and all your options. IG yeah, and I highly recommend pink and purple.

Just a general answer to your question. I think Martin strings are similar to the new Hoyt Fuse strings. Most are pretty good, but a few people report having a so-so set. I guess some things get through the quality control cracks every day. I've been shooting Martins for four years now--5 different bows. Most times I get strings even prior to the bow arriving, justdue to the reputation factory strings have in general. I decided on a couple of the bows to just shoot what came on the bow and so far I've seen some good results.

We have discussed here about the quality of the manufacturing process. This always makes me wonder if only one person at Martinis making the strings and just messes up once in a while or if more than one is doing the work and one guy is better than the other.

Thanks guys for the help. I am looking at them and it looks like it is gonna be $80 + to get the string and cabels so......it might be a bit, but not too long before I get a new one I think.