OK GUY' S THE 2002 PATRIOT SC IS GOING DOWN THE ROAD SO NOW IT' S TIME TO GET A NEW ONE. I DON' T KNOW IF I WANT THE PATRIOT DC OR EXTREME VFT OR THE BK II SO HOW BOUT SO INPUT . I KNOW THERE IS ALOT OF YOU GUYS HAVE THESE .KIND OF WANTING TO GET BACK IN TO A DC .BUT THE EXTREME VFT SOUNDS LIKE A LOT OF FUN. THANKS RANDY

Ok, Randy, I' ll bite!!

My vote is for the VFT, but then again I' m partial.

The Patriot SC is just like a VFT in my view, except it has a shorter brace height. I think the VFT also feels a little better in hand as well. FYI, my 70 lb, 29" shoots 367 grains at 306, with all the hunting stuff on the string.

I' ve never tried a BKII, but I did test the Patriot DC. I did not like the valley of the DC, but other than that, it was a super bow.

My Extreme VFT is prouducing 303-304 at 30" draw, 70lbs and a 377 grain arrow.

MY dual cam Patriot, is shooting 296fps with a 329gr arrow at 65lbs. 27.75" draw, peep and string loop on string. I too am contemplating a new bowtech in target a color, either the bk or patriot both with dual cams.

what are you using the bow for.... I talked to a Bow Tech rep. said as for me (strictly hunting) the Extreme VFT would be better, for 3-d the Patriot, I don' t want the Patriot Dually for hunting because of the valley and quick let-off for holding for a shot for a deer so for me for just hunting it was PAtroit single cam or Extreme and rep talked me into the Extreme, no sand traps/lighter and alot of extras this year for the price.

camp rut - it is hard to say which one for hunting. you really need to shoot them all then make up your mind. some guys like the longer bows like the pro 40 for hunting while others are mad about their Mighty Mites. Shoot them all 7 then pick the one that feels best!

Good Luck

My choice would be the Pro 38.

I have got the Pat Dually and I have been using for both hunting and 3d.
I will tell you that as far as hunting goes this thing has got some clout mine is only a 60lb with a 28" draw.
On the string I have got a peep,cats whiskers,magnock reciever,2 tied in nocks and a string loop with a 345gr arrow it is doing 281fps and with a 310gr arrow it is doing 292fps.
I do use a slightly heavier arrow for hunting 370gr' s and the power it puts out is unbelieveable and it is deadly accurate.

I am thinking really hard about getting the Pro40 Dually in target colors for 3d just have to some how either tell the wife or sneak it into the house.

Wow, Ausie-Guy sounds like you are pushing the marriage commitment hehe, I know I would be!! Good luck from a fellow Pat shooter..

I think I would go with the Extreme VFT as well. The only thing putting it out of my " ideal bow" category is the brace height....though it is only in the marginal not the extreme category in this regard.