what are you using the bow for.... I talked to a Bow Tech rep. said as for me (strictly hunting) the Extreme VFT would be better, for 3-d the Patriot, I don' t want the Patriot Dually for hunting because of the valley and quick let-off for holding for a shot for a deer so for me for just hunting it was PAtroit single cam or Extreme and rep talked me into the Extreme, no sand traps/lighter and alot of extras this year for the price.