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LostInWoods 01-30-2008 09:17 AM

The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
This is a serious question and any responsesare much appreciated.

If you could buy the perfect arrow rest, what features would it have? What rest out there is the best you have used? I am mainly talking about drop aways, but feel free to talk about any.

Thanks

String Burn 01-30-2008 10:10 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I posted the same ? about a week ago and everyone seemed to think that the Vaportrail "Limb Driver" was a good one to go after. I haven't triedit yet becasue of the $$$ tag on it. I honestly think any rest will perform with the proper set up and tuning.

muzzyman88 01-30-2008 01:17 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
Well, I'll beat on my APA drum again. For me, the APA Twister Safari I've been using is about as good as it gets. Simple setup, accurate and full containment. Why these rests have never caught on is beyond me. I've used this rest for 3 years and have not come across a better designed hunting rest.

If I could design the perfect rest, it would basically be the same design as the Twister Safari with the addition of micro adjustability for all adjustments. This includes timing.

Hunter Dan7 01-30-2008 06:35 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
A drop away whisker biscut would be perfect.

whitetailbowhunter 01-30-2008 06:35 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 


ORIGINAL: String Burn

I posted the same ? about a week ago and everyone seemed to think that the Vaportrail "Limb Driver" was a good one to go after. I haven't tried it yet becasue of the $$$ tag on it. I honestly think any rest will perform with the proper set up and tuning.
I have a Limb Driver and I have to say it is the best rest i have ever owned so far! Very easy to install and tune! Yes they are a bit pricey but very worth it!:D

BGfisher 01-30-2008 09:01 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
For me the rest would have to NOT have any cords attached to activate it. I see most droppers with cords as a cheap way to make a $15 prong rest work in the opposite direction with a $75 price tag. But then we archers are just, OH, so gullible.

OHbowhntr 01-30-2008 10:13 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: BGfisher

For me the rest would have to NOT have any cords attached to activate it. I see most droppers with cords as a cheap way to make a $15 prong rest work in the opposite direction with a $75 price tag. But then we archers are just, OH, so gullible.
I hear ya there, as a matter of fact, I know of a guy who did exactly that, bought a LEFTY prong rest, and mounted it on a righty bow in such a fashion, said it worked almost as good as the "designed" drop-aways.

whitetailbowhunter 01-31-2008 09:54 AM

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ORIGINAL: Hunter Dan7

A drop away whisker biscut would be perfect.
How would that work?

MeanV2 01-31-2008 10:21 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: String Burn

I posted the same ? about a week ago and everyone seemed to think that the Vaportrail "Limb Driver" was a good one to go after. I haven't triedit yet becasue of the $$$ tag on it. I honestly think any rest will perform with the proper set up and tuning.
$89.95 TYD is in line with most of the top Dropaways. Check them out at my Website www.meanvarchery.com We sell other rests but this is the one I use and recommend;)

Dan

LostInWoods 01-31-2008 12:11 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
My R and D backround makes me want to improve everything. LOL. I am just thinking I can make a rest better. The nice thing about bow accessories is thatthey are pretty simple in mechanical operation.

Gundeck 01-31-2008 12:37 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: LostInWoods

My R and D backround makes me want to improve everything. LOL. I am just thinking I can make a rest better. The nice thing about bow accessories is thatthey are pretty simple in mechanical operation.
Obviously, you know nothing about bows. Just ask these guys around here. Each component is constructed of one part black magic, one part karma and one part luck. It has very little to do with materials and design. Why, most bows work simply based on the name label placed on them. I am surprised they even have R&D departments. :D:D:D

LostInWoods 01-31-2008 02:42 PM

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MOhunter46 01-31-2008 03:19 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: Hunter Dan7

A drop away whisker biscut would be perfect.
:eek:What??????

FLbowhntr 01-31-2008 04:26 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I realy like my QAD ultra full containment in a dropaway.

Arthur P 01-31-2008 04:38 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I shoot a GKF Golden Premier. I've had this rest mounted on at least 10 different bows over the past what... 15 years? Still works great. Might not be the perfect rest, but it's perfect for what I need... and don't need.

It's quiet, easily adjustableand consistent for consistent accuracy. That's what I need.

What I don't need: I don't need a rest that drops out of the way because I can orient my nocks to get fletching clearance. I don't need a full containment rest because I'm not so clumsy I knock the arrow off the bow every time I turn around. ;)

BGfisher 01-31-2008 06:52 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

What I don't need: I don't need a rest that drops out of the way because I can orient my nocks to get fletching clearance. I don't need a full containment rest because I'm not so clumsy I knock the arrow off the bow every time I turn around. ;)
I hear ya Arthur. I can't quite get over this craze for fletching clearance (drop away)and full containment. Kinda contradictory, don't ya think?

Couple years ago I tried 9 different drop away rests over a period of two weeks. None showed any improvement over my good old (15 years) Star Hunter.

live2Draw 01-31-2008 09:56 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
As far as full containment dropaways, the Kaz-away by Vital bow gear, or the apa twister safari quick shot.
as far as stationary full contain, the new bowtech hostage is pretty hard to beat. the old one was a great idea, the new one has been perfected.


Brett/IL 01-31-2008 10:22 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

I shoot a GKF Golden Premier. I've had this rest mounted on at least 10 different bows over the past what... 15 years? Still works great. Might not be the perfect rest, but it's perfect for what I need... and don't need.

It's quiet, easily adjustableand consistent for consistent accuracy. That's what I need.

What I don't need: I don't need a rest that drops out of the way because I can orient my nocks to get fletching clearance. I don't need a full containment rest because I'm not so clumsy I knock the arrow off the bow every time I turn around. ;)
Arthur-I shot that same rest for a number of years and it worked great. I believe that there is always room for improvement and that is why I like the idea if a full containment rest. I have never bumped an arrow off of a prong style rest, but there is always that Murphy fellow lurking out there. I shot the original Hostage all through last season (hunting/target) and it did very well. For me, my perfect rest is in production, and I couldn't be happier.

http://www.fuelthehunt.com/hostagepro.php

Arthur P 02-01-2008 04:55 AM

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I have never bumped an arrow off of a prong style rest, but there is always that Murphy fellow lurking out there.
I have to admit that I do like the concept of the Hostage and have been battling with the demons in my head that want me to get one. After all, my Premier IS getting old....;)But my draw to it is the simplicity of the design, not any great perceived need to keep my arrow in place. Besides, if Mr Murphy decides to pick on you, he's gotcha, no matter what rest you've got on the bow. [&:]

LostInWoods 02-01-2008 07:31 AM

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How is the Hostage rest...seriously? I was thinking about buying a second bow and using it.

MeanV2 02-01-2008 07:47 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: LostInWoods

How is the Hostage rest...seriously? I was thinking about buying a second bow and using it.
I have a Hostage on my General and my wife has one on her Equalizer. I am a fan of the Drop aways and Particularly the Limb Driver, but the Hostage is really a very functional rest. I can't imagine a better rest of this type than the new Hostage Pro will be:D

Dan

brucelanthier 02-01-2008 08:11 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: MeanV2


ORIGINAL: LostInWoods

How is the Hostage rest...seriously? I was thinking about buying a second bow and using it.
I can't imagine a better rest of this type than the new Hostage Pro will be:D

Dan
How about a hostage pro that will handle a four fletch arrow ;).

MeanV2 02-01-2008 08:47 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: Arthur P

I shoot a GKF Golden Premier. I've had this rest mounted on at least 10 different bows over the past what... 15 years? Still works great. Might not be the perfect rest, but it's perfect for what I need... and don't need.

It's quiet, easily adjustableand consistent for consistent accuracy. That's what I need.

What I don't need: I don't need a rest that drops out of the way because I can orient my nocks to get fletching clearance. I don't need a full containment rest because I'm not so clumsy I knock the arrow off the bow every time I turn around. ;)
I guess we don't need a perfect arrow rest if we are the perfect Archer[8D]

J/King AP I've sold, setup, and personally used a lot of the GKF Premiers' and Rovers. Good Solid rests although I do have different preferences today.;)

Dan

MeanV2 02-01-2008 08:48 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: brucelanthier


ORIGINAL: MeanV2


ORIGINAL: LostInWoods

How is the Hostage rest...seriously? I was thinking about buying a second bow and using it.
I can't imagine a better rest of this type than the new Hostage Pro will be:D

Dan
How about a hostage pro that will handle a four fletch arrow ;).
Bruce, You can always dream;)

Dan

Arthur P 02-01-2008 09:14 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

I guess we don't need a perfect arrow rest if we are the perfect Archer[8D]
Not perfect. Competent, perhaps, would be the more correct term. Just maybe a tad better and more experiencedthan average. [8D]

I'm also old fashioned - Ifreely admit it - andleery of things that are supposed to work automatically. Cars that are supposed to park themselves at the push of a button!?! Broadheads that are supposed to automatically open when they hit a deer. Arrow rests that are supposed to automatically get out of the way of an arrow's fletching. Maybe they work perfectly 9,999 times out of 10,000. It's that one out of 10,000 shot that will likely be the one to bite me in the arse and not work when I need it most.

Murphy or not,I just don't choose tothrow myselfto the mercy of fate. :D

LostInWoods 02-01-2008 01:25 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 


I'm also old fashioned - Ifreely admit it - andleery of things that are supposed to work automatically. Cars that are supposed to park themselves at the push of a button!?! Broadheads that are supposed to automatically open when they hit a deer. Arrow rests that are supposed to automatically get out of the way of an arrow's fletching. Maybe they work perfectly 9,999 times out of 10,000. It's that one out of 10,000 shot that will likely be the one to bite me in the arse and not work when I need it most.

Murphy or not,I just don't choose tothrow myselfto the mercy of fate. :D
You are suppose to wake up everyday alive and I bet you do. A little more optimism man. lol. I know what you mean though but have some faith brother.

bowdoc1 02-01-2008 02:27 PM

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I think some archers worry about things to much. Just work on making the shot. I seen some archer that shoot dam good with arrows that fly bad. I all ways get my bow to shoot good and in tune, but than forget it I can shoot good worrying about if my rest is going to be working right all the time. I'm old fashion to, I shoot a new Black Ice with a Golden key Premier rest made into a drop away that I have been using for about 10 years. I drive my new truck with my four wheeler in the back out hunting and put my carbon suit on, climb up a tree with my climbing tree stand and just hunt. I don't set around worrying about my rest are what some one is using not a thing, but making a good shot.

Drubie22 02-08-2008 11:27 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
How would the Limbdriver work on a General? I bought one and the piece that connects to the top limb is too small and does not bridge the gap between the split limbs of the General.

BigJ71 02-09-2008 01:15 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I don't know what the perfect arrow rest is, but I can tell you what I think is the perfect hunting arrow rest. Whisker Biscuit.....by far.

Mine is quiet, sturdy, simple, and full proof.

It's the only arrow rest on the market (that I know of) that will fullysecure your arrow, no slop. If you bump it, it will reposition itself without you needing to touch the arrow. Try that with the hostage. The Hostage won't, the arrow can fall through the bristles pretty easy and bang against the ring. You will have to pull the arrow out and reset it in the rest. Most drop aways that "contain" the arrow, there is a lot of slop and the arrow bangs around, you will HAVE to stick on mole skin every were. My bow is a "mole skin free zone".:DThere's nothing to reset, you can draw and let down a million times if you want and the arrow will be ready to shoot...all you need to do is draw again.

The Whisker Biscuit doesn't damage my vanes what so ever. Set it up correctly (not hard) purchase the correct size opening (important) and you'll see no damage.It is as accurate as 99% of the people on this forum can ever be able to shoot in their wildest dreams (including me). It's durable, you can shoottens of thousands of shots through itbefore it even starts to show wear. When it does you can buy a replacement biscuit for under $20.00, install it and never have to re-adjust a thing.

It will work in the freezing cold, summer heat, rain, you name it. I've hunted in some of the worst weather Illinois (and across the country) can throw at me and I never once worried about the rest. There's no moving parts, nothing to rust, stretch, wear out, freeze up, nothing for dirt to get into andmost importantly....nothing to fail at the worst time.

Be wary of all the Hostage hype..... It's not a bad rest but it's nothing "revolutionary" as the BowTech folks would lead you to believe. This rest has been around a while before BowTech bought the companyout.It was called the Catawba rest before and NOBODY gaveit the time of day........till now. Things that make yougo Hmmmmmmmmmm.:eek:

Don't get me wrong, there are a lot of good arrow rests out there including the Hostage as well as a host of drop aways on the market. Yes, ALL will get the job done too, but if you want a bullet proof...fool proof, hunting rest. Look no further than the Whisker Biscuit......It's track record speaks for itself. ;)

MeanV2 02-09-2008 06:05 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: Drubie22

How would the Limbdriver work on a General? I bought one and the piece that connects to the top limb is too small and does not bridge the gap between the split limbs of the General.
Do you have the Split limb Model?

Dan



royak 02-09-2008 06:09 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
Just my opinion I guess but I love the MZE

Ben / PA 02-09-2008 08:01 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

A drop away whisker biscut would be perfect.

[8D] Let me know when this comes out. We would have nothing to talk about when it does.


PABuck_HNTR 02-09-2008 03:45 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 


How can I get my cams dipped? That looks awesome

MeanV2 02-09-2008 03:54 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 

ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR



How can I get my cams dipped? That looks awesome
Send them to me!;)

Dan

wack 02-10-2008 09:00 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I've tried 3 different drop aways, Shaky Hunter, Drop Zone and DMI Expert II. The biggest issue I have is noise and none of these are perfectly quiet. Is there a good drop away that is absolutely quiet? No little "thump" when it drops? I've heard good things about the Limb driver but have never seen one up close. Who makes the quietest and most dependable drop away?

MeanV2 02-10-2008 09:08 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
My Limb Driver makes zero noise:D

Dan

Roskoe 02-10-2008 10:50 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
I'm completely happy with the QAD Utra Rest Hunter. Quiet - after the moleskin treatment. Got containment. Can "cock" it to get containment right after nocking the arrow. Will stay "cocked" even if you have to let down. Can nock or removed an arrow even when cocked, due to the slightly flexible material of the containment bar.

davepjr71 02-10-2008 08:33 PM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
Another QAD user here. I didn't buy it because I do not know how to set-up a bow for fletch clearance or any other tuning reasons.

I bought it because I'm a tinkerer and I love new toys. Simple to set-up and very accurate. And ditto to the positives thatRoskoe listed.

LostInWoods 02-11-2008 09:50 AM

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ORIGINAL: PABuck_HNTR



How can I get my cams dipped? That looks awesome
HOLY CRAP that looks awesome! MeanV...how much?

MeanV2 02-11-2008 09:58 AM

RE: The Perfect Arrow Rest
 
PM sent

Dan


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