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ORIGINAL: Arthur P

Light arrow not tuned properly vs heavy arrow not tuned properly.... Neither will perform as intended, but which has the better chance of achieving adequate penetration to make a kill? The heavier arrow, of course. IMO, anything that gives the weekend warrior bowhunter a better chance of making a kill vs wounding and losing an animal, and decreasing bowhunting's overall wound/loss ratio, is a good thing. That is why I push the idea of establishing a minimum legal arrow weight of 400 grains. And I admit that is a solid 50 grains lighter than I'd like to see.

I was going to mention your product and my suspicion about your motives on pushing light arrow setups so hard, but I scanned the sponsors list and noticed you aren't on it.

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ORIGINAL: quiksilver

This deer was smoked with a 285 grain total weight arrow at 350+ fps. I think I spent an entire summer bickering with these guys about this very topic. These lamebrainskept insisting that my arrow was gonna bounce off. LOL Well.... It didn't.

MeanV, you're wasting your time. You're not gonna change their mind. You could post 300 pictures of dead deer killed with 250 grain arrows, and Artie would still bedrinking his Dr. Ashby-flavored Kool Aid, and bashing you for not lobbing a six pound arrow at wild game.

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ORIGINAL: Doegirl75

It's just darn hard to find a 400 grain+ arrow/broadhead combo spined to my setup unless I go aluminum. If manufacturers start making heavier arrows that are spined correctly for short draw length, low draw weight shooters, I'll use it. Until then, a 400 grain weight limit is neither fair nor feasible. Even 350grains is a little tough to do.

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ORIGINAL: Straightarrow

It's not difficult at all. Put 250-300 grains on the tip and you'll easily get to 400 grains with the proper spined arrow. Even young children can easily shoot 400+ grains on a properly spined arrow. Aluminum is not necessary. In fact, I prefer carbon in order to get the extreme FOC that works so well. No matter what your draw length or draw weight, by adjusting arrow length and tip weight on a stiffer than normal spine, you can get there and well beyond. There are many ways to get this much weight on the tip with average broadheads. You can add weighted inserts, insert adapters or you can even add your own weight to an insert that has a design that doesn't allow the others.

Unlike many here, I've hunted with everything from 300 grain arrows to 900 grain arrows out of my compound. There is absolutely no doubt in my mind, the heavier, extreme FOC arrows are more accurate, more forgiving, more stable and penetrate better when the penetration is needed. The speed loving crowd thinks the lighter, lower FOC arrows penetrate better. They think the lighter, lower FOC arrows are more stable. They think the lighter, lower FOC arrows are more forgiving. I think they are completely wrong. The fact that deer can be killed with light, low FOC arrows does not in any way demonstrate that they work better. It only demonstrates that they can work in at least some situations. It also demonstrates that the people selling speed have done their job very well.

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