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MZE, had to go.

Old 09-06-2007, 10:13 PM
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Dang it!, After getting my '06 Allegiance and reading Greg/Mo. great post on his fondness for his MZE I decided to put one on. I did notice one blip on the radar in Greg's post ref: A certain archery Guru from Maryland said they just won't work on some Bowtech bows. Well I thought I could tinker enough with mine to make it work.
I have literally worked at it for overthree months and I gave up today. I might be wrong but from my experience I think the problem is fletching clearance.I'vespent a small fortune on different fletching's and I've shot em in every configurationthat I know of, cock vane down, up, sideways, etc. etc. I know that every fletching configuration thatIhave tried hasdone a 360 rotation on the arrows they were on in my efforts to make things work.Now to be fair to the rest I'll say that I shot it well but I just couldn't get that little bit offletching contact out of my head. I've always been able to tune BH's and FP's to group together but because of this minute amount of fletching contact it just ain't happening with this rest/bow comboand if you use the supplied arrow keeper make sure you set it when you set your center shot becauseif you shoot cock vane down your vane is going to have to slide through it. My wifekeeps asking me where her lipstick is. I know I've used a tube of it this summer. At least there's a happy ending to the story. I took out my old tried and true Tiger Tuff threeprong capture rest (similar to BodoodleZapper) andin about 2 hrs. of tinkering andshooting the ol Rhinehart I fixed what I've fought for two months. This is not a MZE bashing thread because they are a great rest but it just didn't work out for me.

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Old 09-06-2007, 10:35 PM
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I emailed Muzzy about this on Monday and got a response from Mark Land on Tuesday. He said they are currently working on a prototype MZE that works with the new Bowtechs and to look for it sometime in 2008.
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Old 09-07-2007, 05:43 AM
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The MZE should have worked with that bow. What drawlength is your bow? The shorter the drawlength the less travel it has which could lead to fletching contact.

I had to call Mark Land myself and he stated that he had set up the MZE on a 27.5" Tribute.

Sorry to hear it didn't workout for you.
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Old 09-07-2007, 06:04 AM
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Duc, believe me I wanted it to work and I tried everything possible. Maybe my drawlength is too short. I shoot 28.5 and that's at 65 lbs. I even tried a few different brands of arrows ACC Superslims, Carbon Express Maxima's. I just couldn't get rid of that little bit of fletching contact. Like I said before I shot really well with it but knew that I wouldn't be able to make the adjustment with rest movement to make my BH's dead on. They would always group about 2" left. I could have just moved my sights but that's not me. I sit in a tree a min. of 60 days a yr. so I have lots of time to think about stuff. With my Tiger Tuff I know I can sit there and concentrate on hunting and not think about it. Hey, all's well that ends well and now I can hunt with complete confidence. There's no room for negative thoughts in my tree.

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Old 09-07-2007, 06:34 AM
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mfd, did you try crossing your cables above the guard? Thats what I had to do to get rid of fletching contact.
 
Old 09-07-2007, 07:07 AM
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Big Country, Yep, tried that too. Actually one of the first things I did. Hey, your from Maryland have you ever asked Len why they won't work? A good friend and archery shop owner in Sandersville, Ga. has been to 3 or 4 of his seminars so I know he likes the MZE but for whatever reason he doesn't recommend them for Bowtech's.

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Old 09-07-2007, 07:14 AM
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Default RE: MZE, had to go.

I just reread your original post. I should have paid attention the first time. I thought it was in reference to "some Bowtechs" meaning the Guardian and Commander. It's no secret that the MZE won't work properly on those bows.

As for the 06 Allegiance I can honestly say first hand that the correct MZE next gen will work on that bow. I have one on my Allegiance and it works great.
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Old 09-07-2007, 10:13 AM
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Big Country, Yep, tried that too. Actually one of the first things I did. Hey, your from Maryland have you ever asked Len why they won't work? A good friend and archery shop owner in Sandersville, Ga. has been to 3 or 4 of his seminars so I know he likes the MZE but for whatever reason he doesn't recommend them for Bowtech's.

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He has sold me three of the MZE. Two for you regular long slide travel older PSE's. And I have one on my Liberty. I finally got it to work with no clearance issues. Len put it on in 04. I set mine up to drop very quick. Like within 2" of release. I can't imagine len saying they won't work on bowtechs as he has put on a whole lot on bowtechs. Now, its no secret they don't work on guardians. But I thought the Allegience was ok for it.

How fast do you have it dropping? How high over the berger holes is your arrow/rest as full draw?
 
Old 09-07-2007, 07:25 PM
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I know from my own experiance that the Muzzy will not in no shape or form work on half of the new VFT or short axle to axle bows that are produced today Unless you only shoot feathers. Feathers collapse enough during the shot and dont produce a massive tear even during major contact.

Muzzy should have listened to the consumer and changed or modified there rest to work on the new technology but they didnt and now they have to play kethup.
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Old 09-07-2007, 07:26 PM
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Ketchup, whoops
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