whisker biscuit pro's and con's
11-27-2002, 04:48 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: VIRGINIA BEACH, VA.
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whisker biscuit pro's and con's
does it reduce arrow speed? rip vanes? wear out? will they work in wet conditions? i am shooting a tm hunter prong rest,only rest i,ve had for 10 years. i am sick of my arrow falling off sometimes in critical times. i like to keep my rests light and simple.HUNTING only..thanks
11-28-2002, 03:49 AM
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Vinton VA
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RE: whisker biscuit pro's and con's
The WB is a good rest, and can be made very good. It can tear vanes off if they are not applied properly, and some vanes wear more quickly than others. You can loose speed, but than can be reduced by triming one or both sides of the WB. It can be a bit noisey to draw with some arrow types, but not nearly as loud as a bare tm hunter style rest. You can also modify the rest so that you can top load your arrows instead of pushing the broadhead through the bisquit.
It can be very accurate with proper arrown and vane selection, and is pretty much trouble free as it has no moving parts. I have found that it tends to "fix" poor arrow flight, or that is it can can you false readings through paper. When tuning with the WB don't settle for anything less than perfect bullet holes at 3, 8, and 15 feet prior to going out and shooting groups with broadheads. I thought a bow was tuned, but wouldn't put broadeads anywhere near the field points( they did group decent enough though). I played with the rest a bit and go field points and broadheads grouping together. I then went in and found the bow still shooting bullet holes at all three distances, but these holses were more consistant. What I mean by that is that the holes were "cleaner" and I had no "flyers".
The WB is best used with durable vanes, as feathers tend to "fuzz" up and I think that in the rain feathers and the Biscuit will be a problem, not becuase either is bad in the rain, but they just don't work well together when wet.
I currently have a golden key shootout I plan on testing side by side with the WB. It also holds some promise, and may end up being a better choice. I would recommend getting the deluxe WB as it offers much easier adjustments when tuning.
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It can be very accurate with proper arrown and vane selection, and is pretty much trouble free as it has no moving parts. I have found that it tends to "fix" poor arrow flight, or that is it can can you false readings through paper. When tuning with the WB don't settle for anything less than perfect bullet holes at 3, 8, and 15 feet prior to going out and shooting groups with broadheads. I thought a bow was tuned, but wouldn't put broadeads anywhere near the field points( they did group decent enough though). I played with the rest a bit and go field points and broadheads grouping together. I then went in and found the bow still shooting bullet holes at all three distances, but these holses were more consistant. What I mean by that is that the holes were "cleaner" and I had no "flyers".
The WB is best used with durable vanes, as feathers tend to "fuzz" up and I think that in the rain feathers and the Biscuit will be a problem, not becuase either is bad in the rain, but they just don't work well together when wet.
I currently have a golden key shootout I plan on testing side by side with the WB. It also holds some promise, and may end up being a better choice. I would recommend getting the deluxe WB as it offers much easier adjustments when tuning.
TAKE YOUR KIDS HUNTING AND YOU WON'T BE HUNTING FOR YOUR KIDS
11-28-2002, 09:38 AM
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RE: whisker biscuit pro's and con's
I'm a firm believer in the whisker biscuit. It has proven itself in the field for me over and over again. It secures your arrow better than any other rest I've tried. I've hunted in all kinds of extremes and it has performs flawlessly for me. This year I had an extreme test that I put it through. Late bowseason gave us an ice storm that I hunted in. Basically, we had non stop freezing rain for several hours. It got so bad, that my arrow and broadhead were completely encased in ice. I wouldn't have dared shoot beyond 10 yards with all the additional weight. There was a good 1/4" of ice on my treestand by the time I got down (that was hairy, let me tell ya).
Periodically, I tested the biscuit to see it was frozen or iced up (everything else was on my bow). However, the biscuit remained flexible with no noticable ice build-up on it anywhere. It's a pleasure to hunt with this rest. The arrow never falls off and you don't have to constantly monitor where it is, when stalking or stillhunting. It's a real comfort in a treestand, to have the bow on your lap with the arrow ready to go. No chance of the arrow making noise while you try to get it on the rest.
Periodically, I tested the biscuit to see it was frozen or iced up (everything else was on my bow). However, the biscuit remained flexible with no noticable ice build-up on it anywhere. It's a pleasure to hunt with this rest. The arrow never falls off and you don't have to constantly monitor where it is, when stalking or stillhunting. It's a real comfort in a treestand, to have the bow on your lap with the arrow ready to go. No chance of the arrow making noise while you try to get it on the rest.
11-28-2002, 12:58 PM
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Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Fulton county IL USA
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RE: whisker biscuit pro's and con's
I've heard way to many complaints from local hunters and talked to many WB users at the local 3D course this year. It sounded that most like the fact that the WB would set-up easy but the fletching wear was a major concern and the adverse effects weather can have on the WB really had a lot of the users wary.
The GKF Shoot Out has won many shooters over in this area. The rest isn't effected by weather, is incredibly easy to tune and set-up, is very quiet with it's virgin Teflon launchers, and most importantly isn't effected by weather. The side and/or top loading feature also is extremely popular with the ex-WB users!!!
Of course, the rest to watch is the new 2003 GKF ARROW TRAP!!! This revolutionary design features rear or side loading Keeper frame that automatically centers and holds the arrow in the Shooting Channel everytime. This rest will provide accurate, quiet flight WITHOUT loss of speed, damaged fletching or effects of weather.I can't wait toget my hands on this one!!!
The GKF Shoot Out has won many shooters over in this area. The rest isn't effected by weather, is incredibly easy to tune and set-up, is very quiet with it's virgin Teflon launchers, and most importantly isn't effected by weather. The side and/or top loading feature also is extremely popular with the ex-WB users!!!
Of course, the rest to watch is the new 2003 GKF ARROW TRAP!!! This revolutionary design features rear or side loading Keeper frame that automatically centers and holds the arrow in the Shooting Channel everytime. This rest will provide accurate, quiet flight WITHOUT loss of speed, damaged fletching or effects of weather.I can't wait toget my hands on this one!!!
11-28-2002, 07:51 PM
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Join Date: Feb 2003
Location: Unadilla NY United States
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RE: whisker biscuit pro's and con's
The weather doesn't have any more effect on the Whisker biscuit than any other rest. It's easy to tune always holds your arrow & is quiet. As far as wearing your vanes I have well over a thousand shots through mine with no wear. It does slow down your arrow, but not enough to worry about. Best hunting rest made IMO.
11-30-2002, 06:37 AM
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RE: whisker biscuit pro's and con's
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Just curious, what type of weather caused problems? I've hunted and shot the biscuit in every imaginable weather condition without so much as a hickup. In fact, in the most severe weather conditions, it is my opinion that it excels even more. Super high winds have no effect on this rest. Ice storms will not prevent the shot or affect the flight. Driving rain has absolutely no effect. Extremely heavy snow isn't even noticable with it. I hunt in a lake-effect snow belt areas off lake Erie and frequently hunt in snow storms.
I've heard the rumor that the biscuit will freeze up and not work. I have never found that to be the case. Maybe if it was raining and the temperature fell to 15 degrees real quick, some ice might form, but a simple push with your finger on the bristles would remove it.
As for tearing fletches, that is never a problem if you are willing to fletch with the proper vanes and glue. I'm sure I have some individual arrows with over a thousand shots through the biscuit with no affect on the vanes.
I have several hunting buddies using the biscuit and you'd have to fight them to get it off their bows. As a hunting rest, it simply excels. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
Just curious, what type of weather caused problems? I've hunted and shot the biscuit in every imaginable weather condition without so much as a hickup. In fact, in the most severe weather conditions, it is my opinion that it excels even more. Super high winds have no effect on this rest. Ice storms will not prevent the shot or affect the flight. Driving rain has absolutely no effect. Extremely heavy snow isn't even noticable with it. I hunt in a lake-effect snow belt areas off lake Erie and frequently hunt in snow storms.
I've heard the rumor that the biscuit will freeze up and not work. I have never found that to be the case. Maybe if it was raining and the temperature fell to 15 degrees real quick, some ice might form, but a simple push with your finger on the bristles would remove it.
As for tearing fletches, that is never a problem if you are willing to fletch with the proper vanes and glue. I'm sure I have some individual arrows with over a thousand shots through the biscuit with no affect on the vanes.
I have several hunting buddies using the biscuit and you'd have to fight them to get it off their bows. As a hunting rest, it simply excels. <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>
