I say upwards of 90 ft lbs........actual numbers about 87-89ft lbs?.
Potato.....PoTAto....Tomato.....ToMAto.
Geez you should be lucky I can make an educated guess with anything math related being from South Central PA!
I saw a guy the other day in the middle of a farm field with a pop up trailer, a burn barrel for heat ,sitting on a lawn chair OUTSIDE watching a Black and White TV up on blocks!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I'll give ya math skills........<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

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I say upwards of 90 ft lbs........actual numbers about 87-89ft lbs?.
Potato.....PoTAto....Tomato.....ToMAto.
Geez you should be lucky I can make an educated guess with anything math related being from South Central PA!
I saw a guy the other day in the middle of a farm field with a pop up trailer, a burn barrel for heat ,sitting on a lawn chair OUTSIDE watching a Black and White TV up on blocks!<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle> <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

I'll give ya math skills........<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>



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LOL..

And you forget my friend, I am from the South..

we say Tamaters and Taters! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle> And this time of year you'll hear alot about punkins...and punkin pie...and A-kerns...

Come to think of it considering all the facts..I'd say you did damn good guessing what you did RE: KE. Who helped you? <img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>

JeffB<img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

Hey Matt, they call em Tent Trailers out west...

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YeeHaww, Fellow Pythonites...

Where'd you get the coconuts? I found them. Found them in Mercia, we don't have cocnuts in Mercia. Well a swallow could have carried them...
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RUUUNNNNN AWWWWAAAYYYY

And He bravely ran away.. he bravely ran away. Brave brave Sir Robin bravely ran away....

We are the Knights of KNI...KNI..KNI...KNI....

WE Require a Shrubbery...

A Shrubbery?...

Yes...A SHRUBBERY...

And now for something completey different...

The larch...the LARCH...the LAAARRCHH...


OK I found this..this is my fave Python Skit..


The Spanish Inquisition

&quot;NOBODY expects the Spanish Inquisition!

Our chief weapon is surprise...

surprise and fear...

fear and surprise....

Our two weapons are fear and surprise...

and ruthless efficiency....

Our three weapons are fear, surprise, and ruthless efficiency...

and an almost fanatical devotion to the Pope....

Our four...no...

Amongst our weapons....

Amongst our weaponry...are such elements as fear, surprise....

I'll come in again.

LMAO..LOVED that Skit...

JeffB <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>





Edited by - jeffB on 11/07/2002 19:49:12

Okay Matt, now you've gone and done it! Like I need some other high-priced toy to occupy my every passing thought! Thanks, BUDDY!! (said with as much venom as I can muster! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)

Okay, the specs do sound incredible, and enough to get me to give up a left n... never mind. But, I guess my question still remains a little bit: Are you guys saying it takes going to the twin cams to produce these kind of numbers, and they can't do it with single-cam technology? (Nothing wrong with that, just curious as to why the companies are going back to the twins.) Is it to eke out the extra KE, fps, and all the other goodies?

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.

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Okay Matt, now you've gone and done it! Like I need some other high-priced toy to occupy my every passing thought! Thanks, BUDDY!! (said with as much venom as I can muster! <img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>)

Okay, the specs do sound incredible, and enough to get me to give up a left n... never mind. But, I guess my question still remains a little bit: Are you guys saying it takes going to the twin cams to produce these kind of numbers, and they can't do it with single-cam technology? (Nothing wrong with that, just curious as to why the companies are going back to the twins.) Is it to eke out the extra KE, fps, and all the other goodies?

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.
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FWIW, Companies aren't really &quot;going back to twins&quot; they've been making them all along (with the exception of Mathews).
Heck some companies i.e. Hoyt aren't offering a single or dual cam as an option. It's either a cam and 1/2 or a Spiral cam and 1/2 that's it.

BowTech has refined their both their duals and their singles this year...

FWIW, There are some single cams designs lurking in the darkness that are faster than the new dual cams... I don't think we'll see them for a while though...<img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle><img src=icon_smile_big.gif border=0 align=middle>

You're right, BowTech_Shooter, I guess I didn't mean it as literally as it sounded in my post. Maybe going back to placing an emphasis within the R&D department, and with the company's marketing maybe?

Still, my query remains: Why the (seemingly) new-found interest in pushing the envelope using two cams?

And don't worry, BowTech_Shooter, I'm not one of those with a &quot;Mathews is better than your company because I shoot one&quot; mentality. (I noticed your &quot;no offense&quot; beginning in one of your earlier posts... Don't worry, I -- unlike some people -- realize I don't own nor have stock in the company, so no offense will be taken. It just happens to be what brand of bow I shoot currently. Of course, if you guys keep spittin' out these stats like this (Darn you again, Matt! <img src=icon_smile_wink.gif border=0 align=middle>), the ol' Mathews may have a stablemate!

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I thought that was the single cam's advantage? Enlighten me, please! I know Mathews had to engineer a whole new cam (the straightline Maxcam) to address this problem, but supposedly it produced level nock travel... Mabye not, though.

Discipline -- not desire -- determines destiny.

Geeze Pat, are you saying that I'm going to have to buy a 2004 BowTech also<img src=icon_smile_shock.gif border=0 align=middle>. I haven't even seen the 2003 models and you are hinting that there's more speed possible for 2004! I guess I'll just have to start my own Bowtech museum<img src=icon_smile_tongue.gif border=0 align=middle>.

Cool..Some people are very easily offended...

Ok,you have(experts correct me here if I'm wrong)cam syncronization,which is how the cams fire or rollover in relation to each other.Then you have cam timing in relation to the draw cycle.Nock travel is the other issue.Some early single cam designs had trouble getting straight or level nock travel.


Billy

WHACKEM N STACKEM