Video evaluation of bow after release
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Last night I started video taping myself shooting. I watched it several times and saw two things right away that I’m looking to improve.
First off I have a 6 arrow quiver mounted to my bow that must remain in place at all times due to spot and stalk style hunting. On the video I noticed that the top of my bow bumps right about 1-2 inches after the arrow is fired. What will counteract this? Do they make adapters for stabilizers so they can be mounted on right angles to compensate for this movement? Something that is practical for hunting?
Second thing I noticed on the video was the bottom of bow bumps 1-2 inches directly away from me right after the shot. Does this mean I need more weight on my stabilizer?
Looking for ways to keep bow as stable as possible after the shot for better accuracy. What should a perfectly set-up bow look like after a shot is fired?
First off I have a 6 arrow quiver mounted to my bow that must remain in place at all times due to spot and stalk style hunting. On the video I noticed that the top of my bow bumps right about 1-2 inches after the arrow is fired. What will counteract this? Do they make adapters for stabilizers so they can be mounted on right angles to compensate for this movement? Something that is practical for hunting?
Second thing I noticed on the video was the bottom of bow bumps 1-2 inches directly away from me right after the shot. Does this mean I need more weight on my stabilizer?
Looking for ways to keep bow as stable as possible after the shot for better accuracy. What should a perfectly set-up bow look like after a shot is fired?
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I have done a bit of shooting on video as well as part of a routine while rebuilding my form this winter.
I would first of all get rid of that quiver. Worst thing to have on there if accuracy is your concern. You talk about getting so technical with your setup sometimes, but then question using a BT release and now are hesitant to take a bow mounted quiver off...........use the right tool for the job......nomsayin? Don't use counterweights as a bandaid for something like that quiver. You will end up creating more problems and headaches than it's worth.
There are a LOT of other options out there that work as well or better for storing your arrows. I have a kwikee quiver mounted to the waist strap on my hunting pack, looks just like the setup Michael Waddell uses and is just perfect. It also helps to keep my huntingbow balanced.
If you want to start messing with counter weights, etc.........go to a shop that will have them in stock so you can screw them on and play with them to get the right setup. I als would HIGHLY recommend visiting an AEP booth at a local show/shoot if you can make the time, Nunzio is awesome and will let you bring your setup in and play with everything so you can shoot it to make sure it is right before your done. This isn't the kind of thing you want to order off the internet unless you know exactly what you want. Quality stabilizer/counterweights/v-bars aren't cheap if you end up with the wrong stuff. I myself am waiting to raise the funding for Cartel's new deluxe adjustable v-bar, and 10" doinker carbon elite side bars with adjustable dawg weights for them in an attempt to add more mass weight to the bow and to help get the mass weight away from riser to help limit range of movement.
I would first of all get rid of that quiver. Worst thing to have on there if accuracy is your concern. You talk about getting so technical with your setup sometimes, but then question using a BT release and now are hesitant to take a bow mounted quiver off...........use the right tool for the job......nomsayin? Don't use counterweights as a bandaid for something like that quiver. You will end up creating more problems and headaches than it's worth.
There are a LOT of other options out there that work as well or better for storing your arrows. I have a kwikee quiver mounted to the waist strap on my hunting pack, looks just like the setup Michael Waddell uses and is just perfect. It also helps to keep my huntingbow balanced.

If you want to start messing with counter weights, etc.........go to a shop that will have them in stock so you can screw them on and play with them to get the right setup. I als would HIGHLY recommend visiting an AEP booth at a local show/shoot if you can make the time, Nunzio is awesome and will let you bring your setup in and play with everything so you can shoot it to make sure it is right before your done. This isn't the kind of thing you want to order off the internet unless you know exactly what you want. Quality stabilizer/counterweights/v-bars aren't cheap if you end up with the wrong stuff. I myself am waiting to raise the funding for Cartel's new deluxe adjustable v-bar, and 10" doinker carbon elite side bars with adjustable dawg weights for them in an attempt to add more mass weight to the bow and to help get the mass weight away from riser to help limit range of movement.
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Having the bottom kick out seems to be pretty common with single cam and some hybrid cams. I put the PSE NV system on my mighty might and it got rid of it. I don't see where it really matters though.
Look at the video again and see when these things are happening. If it is after the shot don't worry about it. The arrow is already gone and they are not effecting anything. If you shoot with the proper loose grip and have good follow thru it is ok to let the bow do what ever it wants after the shot. If you had to look at video to notice it I am guessing it is a non issue.
When things get bad is when you try to compensate for things and subconciously try to correct them before the shot. This is why a suprise release is so good. If you don't know when the shot is going to go off you can't mess it up before the shot. However back tension releases don't work really well for hunting, so you have to practice good follow thru.
I would suggest going with a hip or backpack type quiver if you can. If not I wouldn't worry about it too much. The important thing is do your arrows go where they are supposed to? If so I don't see where you have a problem. Quit doubting your equipment and practice more concentrating on having the best form and release you can.
Good luck,
Paul
Look at the video again and see when these things are happening. If it is after the shot don't worry about it. The arrow is already gone and they are not effecting anything. If you shoot with the proper loose grip and have good follow thru it is ok to let the bow do what ever it wants after the shot. If you had to look at video to notice it I am guessing it is a non issue.
When things get bad is when you try to compensate for things and subconciously try to correct them before the shot. This is why a suprise release is so good. If you don't know when the shot is going to go off you can't mess it up before the shot. However back tension releases don't work really well for hunting, so you have to practice good follow thru.
I would suggest going with a hip or backpack type quiver if you can. If not I wouldn't worry about it too much. The important thing is do your arrows go where they are supposed to? If so I don't see where you have a problem. Quit doubting your equipment and practice more concentrating on having the best form and release you can.
Good luck,
Paul
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Just a thought, too: You might want to experiment withBowTech's "Wild Thing" stabilizer, which can be turned to any angle to offset your weight challenges.
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OK, let me simplify and rephrase the question…by looking at the link below, what product would thread into my BowTech factory stabilizer hole and still allow for an additional stabilizer to be installed on a left angle?
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1 &keywords=v-bar
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/advanced_search_result.php?search_in_description=1 &keywords=v-bar
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I would be looking at a offset bar, and then a short 4" or so stabilizer with the ability to add and remove weights to it.......with the weight towards the end of the rod. For example, the following items should work well and should be adjustable enough so that you don't have to worry about not trying before you buy.
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_307&products_id=2303
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_121&products_id=2326
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_308&products_id=2297
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_307&products_id=2303
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_121&products_id=2326
http://www.lancasterarchery.com/shop/product_info.php?cPath=41_308&products_id=2297
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Those are some great products, thanks for the links. I spent 30 minutes on that web sight. During my search I ran accross a web sight I have not visited in awhile. They must have updated their web sight. Check out the Fuse Axium sidekick for hunters. Talked to fuse and they said the 4 inch stubby stabilizer on the sidekick can be removed and then you can install whatever length you prefer in it's place. We all like options.
http://www.fusearchery.com/stabilizers/
http://www.fusearchery.com/stabilizers/




