Paper Tuning ?
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I just switched from Goldtip XT 5575 to XT 7595's. I have them fletched with4" duravanes on a right helical from a Bitz jig.
With my new arrows at about 5 feet its a good hole, 10 feet slight tail high left tear, (very slight) at 15 feet back to good tear. My groups from 20-40 yards were good. The guy at the pro shop watched my arrow flight several time from behind me and to the side and then he said that he would just leave it. He said he doesnt mind a small tear and actually both of his bows are set up to have the same slight tear. He said he finds he shoots better that way than with a perfect bullet hole.
This somewhat contradicts what I read here in postsand in magazines. But this guy is an excellent archer so I trust him.
Can anyone explain his theory or have their own theory for maybe not having a perfect bullet hole??
Now that I have thought about it maybe he saw something in my form that caused it so he was not concerned?? Thinking as I get better it will fix it??
With my new arrows at about 5 feet its a good hole, 10 feet slight tail high left tear, (very slight) at 15 feet back to good tear. My groups from 20-40 yards were good. The guy at the pro shop watched my arrow flight several time from behind me and to the side and then he said that he would just leave it. He said he doesnt mind a small tear and actually both of his bows are set up to have the same slight tear. He said he finds he shoots better that way than with a perfect bullet hole.
This somewhat contradicts what I read here in postsand in magazines. But this guy is an excellent archer so I trust him.
Can anyone explain his theory or have their own theory for maybe not having a perfect bullet hole??
Now that I have thought about it maybe he saw something in my form that caused it so he was not concerned?? Thinking as I get better it will fix it??
#2
A slight high tear left is exactly what you should be looking for .Hole's like these indicate that the arrow is rising up and away from your arrow rest.This is what you want because the arrow will not be hitting your rest on it's path . I think you should be happy with the way your setup now .your dead on ,leave it alone .
nubo
nubo
#4
nubo's right on. Shooting a release, your arrow flexes up and down as opposed to side to side with a finger shooter. Admittedly, I don't know all the science behind it, but most tuning manuals are now saying a slightly high tear is perfect.
#6
I used to believe the sun rose and sat on the paper tune test. But after years of shooting, hunting, a couple different bows, several broadhead choises and lots of meat in the freezer . . . forget about it!
I would trust your bow guru and what he's doing/saying.
After all, what is the ultimate goal? Good groups so you don't miss in the field.
I would trust your bow guru and what he's doing/saying.
After all, what is the ultimate goal? Good groups so you don't miss in the field.
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I agree with game4lunch!...I doubt those dead bucks' and does' last thoughts were whether or not my bow was paper-tuned! Although if I was a competetive archer I'd probably feel differently.
#8
An out of tune rest/bow can still shoot decent groups but it doesn't necessarily mean that at impact your arrow will be transferring it's energy in the manner it should taking advantage of every iota of KE and momentum.
An arrow that is not impacting a target in a precise straight line (IE wobbly arrow flight indicated by wild tears) will have adverse affects on penetration on game when shooting broadheads. (Not to mention a near guaranteed difference in POI between field points and fixed blade broadheads for practice)
Just because you sight your bow in for broadheads doesn't necessarily translate to a good tune.
Paper tuning is one of the most beneficial tools an archer can use IMO and if you aren't using it and learning from it you are doing yourself and possibly the animals you are hunting a disservice.
This is one of the roots of many mechanical band-aid horror stories relating to poor penetration , poor broadhead performance and lost game.
An arrow that is not impacting a target in a precise straight line (IE wobbly arrow flight indicated by wild tears) will have adverse affects on penetration on game when shooting broadheads. (Not to mention a near guaranteed difference in POI between field points and fixed blade broadheads for practice)
Just because you sight your bow in for broadheads doesn't necessarily translate to a good tune.
Paper tuning is one of the most beneficial tools an archer can use IMO and if you aren't using it and learning from it you are doing yourself and possibly the animals you are hunting a disservice.
This is one of the roots of many mechanical band-aid horror stories relating to poor penetration , poor broadhead performance and lost game.
#9
Gotta agree whole-heartedly with Matt... In fact he and I were conversing earlier about a dealer out here in my neck of the woods who was bragging to me that he had a customer shooting good groups, but the same customer was getting like two- to three-inch tears through paper.
His philosophy was ... "A deer doesn't care how that arrow tears through paper!" But -- to Matt's point -- it makes a difference on how well that arrow penetrates that deer! While a ridiculous example, although sadly true, I think this example sums up exactly what Matt was talking about.
His philosophy was ... "A deer doesn't care how that arrow tears through paper!" But -- to Matt's point -- it makes a difference on how well that arrow penetrates that deer! While a ridiculous example, although sadly true, I think this example sums up exactly what Matt was talking about.




