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Switchback XT
Just looking for a little feed back on the new Switchback XT. Any one shot one of these yet?
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RE: Switchback XT
They're pretty nice... real dead in the hand, and no shock. Of course, they ought to be with such extreme parallel technology combined with seven -- yep, count 'em -- harmonic dampeners.
Taking nothing away from the XT, you owe it to yourself to go shoot a Bowtech Tribute with the same specs. Just as dead -- if not deader, if that's possible -- in the hand, with probably another 10-15 fps to boot. You can also order an extra "smooth" module that can be interchanged with the "fast" module without the aid of a bow press, which gives you the feeling of having two bows in one: Put the smooth mods in for extended practice sessions or those long 3D shoots, and install the fast ones for that day in the stand when you're only going to be pulling the bow back probably once. With that said though, of all the '06s I've tried that had the fast mods, I would be hard pressed to have guessed that they weren't the smooth ones. Having said all that though, if you're dead-set on a Mathews, you're gonna love the XT... probably one of the nicest bows they've made in a long while. |
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Thanxs for the feedback MQ 1,, I like to keep my options open. I'll give both the Mathews and Bowtech a shot.
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Try the new Ross also. Smoothness of the Mathew grip of a BT and 200$ cheaper!
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I was pretty impressed with the Tribute ! It is the quietest and smoothest (with the smooth modules installed)Bowtech I have shot yet !! But the draw cycle with the fast modules was too harsh for me to enjoy shooting the bow regularly and with the smooth modules the speed was neglible enough that "speed" was taken out of the equation between the two !! The 2 Tributes I looked at had paint already chipping off around the limb pockets and one already had the lettering and yellow ribbon decal coming off ! The Tribute also had a little more handshock to me but was very quiet and dead on the shot (just a slight buzz in the grip ......bare bow) !!
The XT on the other hand had a smoother draw cycle, less vibration(all be it only a slight difference), extremely quiet also on the shot ,and the overall quality just felt much better (especially the camo finish) !! And I am used to tuning and upkeeping Mathews........so the decision became simple for me !! BTW : 451 grain arrow Tribute 30" fast module 61# wb rest = 260 fps XT 30" 74# wb rest = 280 fps If you do the math.......it should come out to where the Tribute is 6 fps faster with the fast modules (not a whole lot IMO) !! Either would make someone a fine bow ........no doubt about it !! Oh yeh , one other thing ! The new strings and cables are awesome on the XT !! I have shot hundreds and hundreds of times and have had to make zero adjustments ......it has stayed dead on spec's since the day I got it ! And I tuned it the fastest/easiest of any bow I have ever tuned !! JFYI !! |
RE: Switchback XT
Don't forget about the Trykon. I shot the Switchback XT and the Trykon side by side. The dealer really pushed the Matthews (not sure why) but I like the feel of the Trykon better. Just be sure to shoot as many as you can and don't be talked into something. You are the one that is going to be shooting it not them. To me it was the Trykon. To the dealer he like the XT. Enjoy the process and enjoy the new bow, whatever you get.
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Dont TRY and KON this man into buying a TRYKON. You will only Switchback.:D
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Personally, I can't see any reasoning behind the XT except making it a shorter Switchback. I've shot both and even my local dealer scratches his head...he prefers the regular Switchback.
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i've shot the trykon and the switchback xt and the original switchback .. i liked the switchback xt the best, i felt some handshock on the trykon and switchback but not on the xt sweet bow!! just my .02[X(]
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I was very interested in the Trykon, until I put it into my hand. Just didn't like the feel, felt alot heavier then the XT. I haven't shot it yet, but I can bet the XT will be my next bow.
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Has anyone shot the Switchback LD?:eek:
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I shot both the '05 Switchback and the XT and I while the XT seemed
to me a little more dead in the hand, I bought the '05 Switchback. I liked it being a little longer axle to axleand I believe it is a little faster than the XT. It is averaging 287 fps at 70# with a 29" draw shooting Vapor 4000 carbon arrows with a 100 grain tip. |
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XT is dead in the hands, smooth drawing, and plenty fast. Tribute is over rated, it is dead in the hand but is no where near as smooth when drawing, I hate the rollover on those cams. It is fast, no doubt about that. Tykron was even worse to me, jumps a lot, harsh draw, but fast.
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Just returned from my nearest shop. He says I won't like 65% letoff on the Switchback, he doesn't have but an XT in stock, Has anyone shot either in 65% letoff?
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Know one shot the LD.:eek:It is longer axle to axle.Also has 9 inch
brace height.I should have mine this next week will give a post when ever I get it.If any one has shot the LD I whould shure Like to here the feed back!:) |
RE: Switchback XT
I went to the shop today and shot the Switchback XT and the Trykon. In my opinion, they both were equal. The Trykon cost more, but it is faster. I ended up getting the Trykon due to the fact that the XT had some hand shock, but not a lot. I shot both bows in ready to hunt condition with all the attachments on, including stabilizers. The Trykon had less hand shock than the XT. However, this is only my opinion and they are both excellent bows.
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I still don't understand the comparison between the Trykon & XT. I know they are both new models, but spec wise the regular Switchback is the bow that should be compared to the Trykon IMO.
They are both 33" ata & 7" brace each. A friend of a friend recently went bow shopping with an open mind (out of archery for 10 years) and compared the Trykon to the XT to the Tribute. He wound up buying the trykon butI beleive the Mathews/ Bowtech dealer might have lost a sale because he never had him shoot the regualr SB for comparison sake knowing the Trykon at the other shop was the bow he was also considering. Maybe it was because he had some 12+ XT's on the wall and only 2 regular SB's? |
RE: Switchback XT
The switchback xt has a 7 1/2 inch brace hight. The trykon has
a 7 inch brace height!The switchback LD has a 9 inch brace height. The point is the Mathew's bows should be a little more forgiving. Particularly the LD! |
RE: Switchback XT
Switchback=7"
Switchback XT= 7 1/2" Switchback LD= 9" I agree the LD should be very forgiving, but with a 295 ibo?? I've got a bow with an 8" brace and yes it is very forgiving, but I could race the arrows to the target:D. One things for sure, you won't be getting your sleeve caught up in the string. |
RE: Switchback XT
The difference in the speed's of the switchback and the LD
is only 20fps.That is just estimate any way.I doubt you can run at 295 fps!The high country I have Know is shooting a 520gr arrow at 252fps.I am going to a 450gr arrow with this new bow.Should still be faster than old one!You could not get out of the way of my old one!! |
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I didn't say I'd win;).
But whenI shoot that bow at 245fps and then switch to another bow which shoots the same arrow at280 fps there is a huge difference (to my eyes and ears)in the amount of time the arrow is gliding through the air before it hits the target. BTW before my math looks too fuzzy the8" braced bow is a 60#er set at 59# &the other is set at 65. The 8" ibo's at 305,other bow (7" brace) 323. When you get it home & all rigged up let us know how it shoots & such. I'd sure like to see a picof afully rigged bow with a9" brace height. |
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It's not going to be as fast as the trykon orthe xt.But it will be
much faster than the high country premier fource i have know! It is shooting that 530 gr at 252.I think I can get 275 fps out of the Ld at 30 inch draw and 70#.Shooting a 450 GR arrow!:) |
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By the way.How did you put your picture on your post?I tryed to
And It is telling me file is to large. |
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I trimmed it down little by little until it was small enough.
270-275 is the perfect speed IMHO. |
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EITHER WAY THE TRYKON STILL SMOKES ANY MATHEWS WITH ANY ARROW!!! :DNO QUESTIONS ASKED!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!;)
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Don't realy care about smoking.Just interested in hitting what i am shooting at!!!
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Mr. Parsons...How canI put this ina nice way? When it comes to stats,tournament wins, and innovation, the Mathews are just second-class. So good luck with hitting what you're shooting at
because I know that my Trykon will stop anything that moves. |
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When it comes to stats, innovationand tournament wins, I would choose myMathews any day.. How come High Country (Sidewinder)and Hoyt (Not sure of the name of it)now have bows on the market that look identical to the SB?????????????????????????????????Answer:Mathews is the leader!!!!
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I have guidede know for 4 year's sure is funny I have seen more
matthew's hunting bows than all the rest combined!!:D I dont Know about target tournement's![:-] |
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Firstly, Parsons needs to learn how to spell because your posts are nearly as unintelligible as are your opinions on Hoyt.
This is a real man's bow. This is a Mathews. "Girly Man's" bow. Nothing like the Trykon. Not even close.Any questions? |
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First mcl8690 I will not debate a subject that you obviously
Dont know what you are talking about.Like I said The Client's I have took out should tell you all you need to know.It is to bad you are so closed minded when it comes to BOW's.I never said Hoyt was a bad bow.We are not on here for a Spelling BeE!! |
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So you agree that the new Hoyts are the best bows in the world. While this isn't a Spelling Bee, it is helpful to other members if you post replies that can actually be read.
I am not a Hoyt fanatic. I have used a PSE and thought it was a good bow. Mathews is also a good bow. But, the new Hoyt beats them hands down. It is just that good. I've done my research and I bought the best. |
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I agree that they areNOT the best bow in the world!
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That new Hoyt is a Switchback wannabe. They never even thought of parallel limbs until the Switchback came out and they sold a million of them. By the way, both are hunting bows not target bows. If you want the best target bow buy yourslf a Mathews Conquest Apex 7, that bow has won more tournaments that all other brands combined.
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Just 1 question, (I am nowguessing the hoyt I referred to is the Trykon) Doesn't it look very much like the Switchback???? Wonder where they came up with that cool lookingdesign???;-)
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So you agree that the new Hoyts are the best bows in the world. While this isn't a Spelling Bee, it is helpful to other members if you post replies that can actually be read. I am not a Hoyt fanatic. I have used a PSE and thought it was a good bow. Mathews is also a good bow. But, the new Hoyt beats them hands down. It is just that good. I've done my research and I bought the best. Maybe if you had a little more posts I would give you some credit, but even last years Mathews bow beats the the Tykron. I am not sure where you did your homework, must have come straight from the Hoyt USA website, but everyone will give the nod to the XT or SB. Some of the local shooters around here, Hoyt fanatics think the Tykron is the "best" bow Hoyt has made, but not the best on the market right now. Draw cycle is harsh, the bow jumps after the shot, it might have no vibration in the grip, but those 2 things jumped out to me. I am not someone who would not buy a bow for it having vibration in the grip, I could care less, but it is the other not so suttle characteristics that jump to my attention.It is not about how fast the bow, or anything like that. It is not the bow killing the animals, it is the person shooting it. I could shoot an super slow High Country that is about 40" ATA and weighs about 5lbs, and still kill deer with it. If you think that the new Hoyt beats them hands down, you obviously have not shot the new SB XT, because there is no comparison. My LX can beat the Tykron hands down......;) |
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Better Watch your spelling,punctuation and apostrophe.
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"Numbers can be deceiving. Except for when they're really obvious."
According to stats from FITA, NFAA, NAA, ASA, and IBO tournament circuit results, the Hoyt grabbed 49 first place wins compared to Mathews with only 21. And, I have shot both the Trykon and the new Mathews. I've also shot the old Mathews that everyone is so crazy about. I thought they were overrated. My opinion isn't based on just product loyalty, but actual shooting. |
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Everyones opinion is different that is why we have one!!Shoot both
decide for yourself! |
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I agree. No hard feelings.
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