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Old 05-28-2008, 09:01 PM
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... new release!

I blank-baled forever with it, shot it without sights for what seemed like forever, and then just shot it some more... never could get used to the concept without hands-on instruction and I wanted to do it "right"... but, man -- did I know something wasn't right! My pin float was everywhere, and it just wasn't working.

A quick tip from Matt / PA last week, and everything clicked. I even took the new Connie fully rigged to my last shoot, knowing it would probably be pretty ugly early on -- and it was. But I was willing to sacrifice another trophy to commit to this.

After dropping a SLEW of points in the first half, I came back to only shoot four down the last 20. The guy who's won the state championship three of the last four years was shooting in the group in front of me, and he finished two down for the shoot -- so that puts me in the ballpark at the end at least.

I'm sticking to my game plan, and I'll be working hard for the next year on yardage and really, really getting comfortable with this whole setup en route to making a run at the state championship... that is, if my writing doesn't get too much in the way of it. But it's looking like a realistic goal for now.




Granted, that was at 25 yards tonight... but it was my first five shots, and I actually aimed to the left on that last one a hair to keep from busting a nock again.

It sure as heck beats sending those shafts intothose woods back there.
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Old 05-29-2008, 06:40 AM
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Congrats. Very nice shooting. What release are you using, and what was the solution to overcome the pin float?
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Old 05-29-2008, 07:14 AM
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Carter Just Cuz +

I was really gripping the heck out of the release before, and had a lot of tension in my release hand. After Matt's suggestion, I'm holding the release just tight enough that it doesn't fly out of my hand yet still allows me to pull through the shot. Voila! My pin float steadied and I still get that surprise release.

To be honest, I get groups that good with my Scott Wildcat caliper wrist release (which is why I've won or placed in a lot of the shoots around here)... but I know if I ever want to reach the level I want to take it to, I need to commit to this.
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Old 05-29-2008, 12:07 PM
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Have you ever attempted shooting a pure BT release?

I was playing around with some different thumb releases for a few months and I was shooting decent but not great. I had about 3 different ones. I got to the point shooting indoor, where I went back out into the shop, took a 3 finger Scott Pro Advantage 3 finger, and finished my round. I had sold the thumb release before that night was over and dedicated my shooting to that BT. I knew it's what I had to do, in order to shoot successfully, so that's what I did.

It could just be me. I think anyone who switches to a pure BT an sticks with it, is making a good decision. There are plenty of successful shooters who shoot triggers, but with me, I couldn't stay consistant.
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Old 06-01-2008, 01:57 PM
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Aside from a couple other very important reasons, one of the things I like in shooting the Just Cuz +is that I feel like I've got just a little more control to stop the shot if I feel like things aren't going well.
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Old 06-01-2008, 06:32 PM
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ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Aside from a couple other very important reasons, one of the things I like in shooting the Just Cuz +is that I feel like I've got just a little more control to stop the shot if I feel like things aren't going well.
Greg, take it for what it's worth. I thought the same thing, but after you shoot a BT for a while you get comfortable with it.
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Old 06-01-2008, 09:51 PM
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ORIGINAL: Matt/TN

ORIGINAL: Greg / MO

Aside from a couple other very important reasons, one of the things I like in shooting the Just Cuz + is that I feel like I've got just a little more control to stop the shot if I feel like things aren't going well.
Greg, take it for what it's worth. I thought the same thing, but after you shoot a BT for a while you get comfortable with it.
I agree At first it's scary to shoot them Back tension releases but after a while it's ok. I'm haven't letdown with mine yet.[&o] BTW I shoot the same as Matt But I have the 4 finger model.
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Old 06-01-2008, 10:26 PM
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That's a quote -- verbatim -- from George Ryals, Matt... I was curious to see what you'd tell one of the world's best shooters.

His sentiments however are echoed by a lot of professional shooters who prefer triggered releases, such as Dave Cousins, et al. I personally watched Jeff Hopkins lose several thousand dollars last year during a shootdown as he had fired a shot over the back of a target before he had a chance to set up solidly in his shot sequence. If it can happen to Hopkins, whose resume rivals anyone in modern archery, it can and will happen to anyone.
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Old 06-02-2008, 08:08 AM
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That's a quote -- verbatim -- from George Ryals, Matt... I was curious to see what you'd tell one of the world's best shooters.

His sentiments however are echoed by a lot of professional shooters who prefer triggered releases, such as Dave Cousins, et al. I personally watched Jeff Hopkins lose several thousand dollars last year during a shootdown as he had fired a shot over the back of a target before he had a chance to set up solidly in his shot sequence. If it can happen to Hopkins, whose resume rivals anyone in modern archery, it can and will happen to anyone.
There are people who feel more comfortable with triggers and shoot well with them. That's great, but I can't. I will punch the daylights out of them, most do. I can shoot one right for a little bit, but it doesn't take long for me to punch them. Some pro archers punch BADLY but seem to shoot well doing so. Tim Gillingham absolutely HAMMERS his release. It doesn't look pretty but if you hold steady enough it works.

I've NEVER *knock on wood* had my BT to misfire, then again I have mine set up pretty tight. I get to full draw with it and just relax my hand, which rolls the release a bit. After I relax, I don't roll it ANY more and its all just pulling my guts out.

As far as backtensions losing tournaments for people, triggers can do the same thing. I know if I get nervous, I'd rather have a backtension in my hand where I can pull as hard as I can into it.

Everyone's different though. Like Jeff (GMMAT) when he was still shooting 3d, he was punching. He was shooting a Carter. (Just an example Jeff). Not badly, he was squeezing, but no pulling.


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I have not had my BT misfire on me either. But when I was trying different releases I did have a thumb release misfire. But I do have to add the release was too small for me. It was a carter Fits Me + and well I could barely fit my index finger in the hole so it felt awkward.
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