You seem to think like the general consensus around here. There has only been a couple who thinks your dog should die for crossing a fence. These are probably the same guys that would spit beachnut in your eye and slap you girlfriend to. They believe laws don't pertain to them.

This would fall under protecting your "livestock". Not sure how shooting a dog that is treed up in your on back 40 would fall under protecting you livestock. Unless of course you claim that you are raising and feeding said coon.

I wouldn't keep argueing with him 2 Lunger as I think he is mad at everyone that hunts with a dog period.. He appears to be having alot of problems right now..

True 2-Lunger. The Kansas law, as in most places, allows for shooting dogs that are threatening livestock or a person. Good luck convincing a judge/jury of rural folks that a coonhound running across your property at 1AM is a threat.Ditto for the civil trial when you are being sued for destruction of chattel property without just cause. There is also a little matter of using some common sense beyond the issue of the dog. If you have a coonhound running on your property, there is a very good chance that there are one or more hunters within a short distance, either on the property in question or on adjacent tracts. Real bright move to go out in the dark and start shooting at waist high targets without a clear idea of who might be around and where they specifically are.I guess i was just raised in an area with a better class of folks. We generally try to be neighborly and help folks out if their dogs stray off instead of trying to come up with an excuse to go off half-cocked (and ignorant of the law) and shooting when its is not really needed. I think that Betterbird will be in good shape if he just keeps his guns unloaded and locked up. An anger management class or some nice meds might help to keep him in good shape too.

Ithink this subject is done since we have a clear idea of where folks like Betterbird are coming from. My main point is thatbetterbird is a classic example of people who do not understand the laws when it comes to grounds for shooting dogs. That is why even a quick google search willshow plenty of cases of people ending up in jail for pulling the trigger on a dog when they thought they were in the right. They weren't[]

Disclaimer: I am NOT sayingthat people dont have the right to post their land and expect people and their dogs to stay off. I'm simply saying that landowners have definite limits on how they can legally respond to such incidents. I would be the first one to shoot a dog that was on my property attacking my family or livestock. But, I doubt that I could face myself in the mirror if I knowingly shot a hunting dog (likely belonging to somone I know) just for straying onto my property. But i guess some folks can...

No Lanse the only clear thing here is that folks like you and Phillis and 2lunger think it's perfectly ok to turn your dogs loose and let them go whereever in the hell they want to. Folks like you are the MAIN reason people can't get on places to bird hunt and train dogs period.


2lunger that is my ad from a couple years ago I think. I got divorced then and let me ad these things to that list that I had to sell. 3500 sq house on 100 acres. 4 TWH geldings. Aluminum 4 horse slant load trailer. Six dog trailer. 3 trooper saddles. Nice of you to bring it up though. I think most of you here are clueless but even I wouldn't wish what I went through on any you fellas.

BBD,

First off I have to say up front, that I have a personal grudge against you. You instigated the whole thing about Sproulman getting the boot. Secondly, you seem to be in the minority, in your view, about how to treat a gun dog.

Things happen! Dogs tresspass without being able to read minds. The hunting instint is very stong in many breeds. This drive is something they are born with. Sometimes it is just plain hard to call a dog off a trail with mother nature working against you.

Personally I think you have some mental issues. I think you feel you are better than anyone else. I think ,as a hunter, you are lousy. I don't think you know much about anything.

Guys like you, make me laugh. You think you are all big and bad behind the key board but in real life you ain't squat.

How much do you even know about hunting? What do you hunt? Can you shoot straight? You have nothing. You are a poor excuse for a hunter and I am personally ashamed to have you as a fellow hunter.

The sad part is, just about everyone agrees with me.

Have to laugh... BBD cleaned up his last original post after calling most of the members morons and idiots. I figured that would get him the boot but he came to his senses and changed it.

Key board balls no doubt.

I been studying on shooting me some dawgs

You boys think what you want. Your buddy Sproulman got the boot because he was talking about killing people. I'm the one with mental issues? That's entertaining.

I'll restate my position for some of the slower folks here: keep control of your dog and you have no issues. I didn't ask to have sproulman banned. Bring him back for all I care. His "I'll kill you" attitude is what got him kicked if he got kicked.

Call me what you will but I keep my dogs on the property I have permission to hunt. That's a foreign concept to some of you I guess.