RockinChair

We've got a real problem with our two German Shepherd pups, they are 11 months old and into everything. The problem is that as soon as we let them out of their pin, off they go back in the woods to chase deer, not exactly what we want. They give no attention to us when it comes to listening. We have resulted to letting them out separately, and they act completely fine and listen quite well. We have tried shocking collars, but they dont fit tight enough. Does anyone have any suggestions for breaking these two? We'd like to let them both out together cause they are a ball to play with, but they are getting to be a hassel. I saw in Cabelas about an electric fence like contraption with flagging set up for the boundaries? Any ideas?

Doc E

Dogs bond with dogs much easier than they bond to humans.
They should be kept seperate (except maybe 10 minutes a day), until they
are another year old. Normally it only takes a year, but you are starting waaaay late.


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EODLT

Doc's right.

Alone a dog can be an angel... Get another dog or two and you have a street gang. Just like teenagers. Keep working on the obedience on your dogs, make sure they want to come to you when called.

Some people choose to make it a so called "positive" experience for the dog when he comes to you.

I prefer to show the dog that it is a "Negative" experience when He Does Not come to me. I never scold a dog for coming even if he just ate my shoes. I will just say something like, "look what you did dummy"... Never use your recall commandfor a tongue lashing.

My dogs are independent in the field until I tell them otherwise, then they will do as I say because they have experienced the consequences of disobeying.

I've had dogs almost fall over when I would give a come-back whistle, while they were running, they had stopped so fast...They do not want to hesitate. They are tring to beat my collar corrections.

brushbuck28

Try trimming thier fur where the probes touch thier neck.My gsp LOVES to run but has learned that the collar is a good thing ,he gets to go out and play or hunt! He just has to listen. Try working with one dog at a time and gradually work with them both. If you don't want them chasing deer unfortunatly it sounds like you have to break them.Try it with a hide first.They have to learn deer are bad news, and listening to you is good news. If theynext to the hide,correction,come to you praise. This worked with my uncles german shep/lab when we would go on hikes.A light buzz is usually all it takes unless they are REALLY stuborn.Then take them on walks through the woods so they realize they have to listen all the time. I would work on a long lead and work on come and stay. Allways end training on a good note with something they can do, wether its sit or down, fetch ect.. Good Luck!