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Originally Posted by VAhuntr
(Post 3978885)
If you truly believe voting Kaine will end the Sunday hunting ban, then I have some ocean front property in Lee County I'll sell ya!
Need to start somewhere. There is no bigger scum in regards to the Sunday Hunting ban the Kirby Birch and the dog runners association he overseas. |
Originally Posted by Eyedr
(Post 3978902)
I dont think it will end the ban, however it may bring some attention to these neanderthal republicans in the state that if they dont get off their asses they may lose the current job they have. Believe me, when they start losing seats they will start reconsidering.
Need to start somewhere. There is no bigger scum in regards to the Sunday Hunting ban the Kirby Birch and the dog runners association he overseas. So you will be supporting Kaine as well? As I have stated repeatedly, go after the STATE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN who are directly responsible. Why anyone, especially a gun owner would want Tim Kaine as their Senator from VA is beyond me. There are enough liberal politicians in the federal cess pool already. |
Maybe Allen is as misinformed about Sunday Hunting as you guys are about what Democrats want to do to your 2nd Amendment Rights....
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Originally Posted by VAhuntr
(Post 3978885)
If you truly believe voting Kaine will end the Sunday hunting ban, then I have some ocean front property in Lee County I'll sell ya!
Show me were I said voting Ksine in would end the ban. I have said it is yime for the Republican leadership to feel the pain for their lack of support on this issue. I will no longer give them a pass on Sunday Hunying. You go ahead if you want to as it is your choice. We will be holding theis same discussion for the next election. Please bookmark this page so in 2016 we wont have to repeat ourselves so much. |
Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3978919)
Show me were I said voting Ksine in would end the ban. I have said it is yime for the Republican leadership to feel the pain for their lack of support on this issue. I will no longer give them a pass on Sunday Hunying. You go ahead if you want to as it is your choice. We will be holding theis same discussion for the next election. Please bookmark this page so in 2016 we wont have to repeat ourselves so much.
You are exactly right, you did not say that. For some reason though, you seem to think that George Allen has something to do with the state issue of Sunday Hunting. Are you forgetting that we already have two Democrat US Senators in Jim Webb and Mark Warner? I have not heard either of them talk about the issue of hunting on Sunday in VA. I just don't see any of our US Senators getting into a state issue like this....especially considering the shape our country is in right now. You said it earlier in one of your posts. House Speaker Howell needs to be sent a message....from his constituents that this archaic law needs to be changed. This is where the focus needs to be, IMO. |
Originally Posted by VAhuntr
(Post 3978909)
So you will be supporting Kaine as well? As I have stated repeatedly, go after the STATE SENATORS AND CONGRESSMEN who are directly responsible. Why anyone, especially a gun owner would want Tim Kaine as their Senator from VA is beyond me. There are enough liberal politicians in the federal cess pool already.
Basically each party is voting party lines on EVERY issue putting their party ahead of the best interests of the entire country. Neither party is fully to blame. The inability to compromise of both sides is nauseating. |
Originally Posted by Eyedr
(Post 3978901)
Excellent post. Thank you for sharing the link and the photo. At least we know that Allen is rubbing elbows with Kirby Birch. This seals the deal. I CAN NOT and will NOT support Allen.
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Originally Posted by Iraqandback03
(Post 3979154)
I encourage anyone who supports lifting the ban on Sunday hunting to type an email. |
Hey guys, I don't like how lax the Republicans have been on immigration, so to teach them a lesson I'm going to vote for Democrats. Is that a good strategy?
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Originally Posted by Stonewall308
(Post 3979381)
Hey guys, I don't like how lax the Republicans have been on immigration, so to teach them a lesson I'm going to vote for Democrats. Is that a good strategy?
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The only vote that matters to most politicians is a vote for them. I will be really surprised if Allen replies to the emails concerning where he stands on hunting on Sundays. It is a state issue and one that a US Senator should probably leave up to the state representatives.
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Originally Posted by Stonewall308
(Post 3979381)
Hey guys, I don't like how lax the Republicans have been on immigration, so to teach them a lesson I'm going to vote for Democrats. Is that a good strategy?
You pick the issues that are most important to you, and I will pay close attention to the issues most important to me. Thats what makes this system great. |
Originally Posted by Eyedr
(Post 3979737)
You pick the issues that are most important to you, and I will pay close attention to the issues most important to me.
Thats what makes this system great. |
Virginia House Republicans and the Leadership are actively fighting to restrict my time in the hunting woods. That makes them anti-hunting in my book.
I will not support a party Leadership that is anti-hunting. I've been involved in the SH struggle for the last 3 years and it has gone from everyone is against us to now just a few Republicans are standing between me and my kids gaining the hunting time needed to spend together in the woods. This from the party that professes to support my favorite pastime? Sorry, I call BS on that one. In local politics Democrats are doing more, almost unanimously, for hunting than the supposed party of the hunter. It is just now that we are calling them on it. If they don't get with the program of actually supporting the Virginia hunter then they should suffer the consequences. I'm hearing it from more and more hunters saying that this is spilling over into the national elections. I agree, the national elections and federal politicians have no vote on whether or not I hunt on Sunday. However, the national guys have to realize that the local Republicans are packing their bags to send them off to DC and House of Reps nonsupport of hunters is having an affect on those national elections. I think they should feel the pressure and say "Hey Speaker Howell, Delegate Sherwood and Delegate Ware, what the hell are you doing??!?!? You need to support the hunters in Virginia because I'm loosing votes up here!" I don't want to see Kaine or BO win. However, the Republican have made their bed and have been warned for years that this was coming. Now they need to lie in that bed or change their stance. It would be a real kick in the crotch if BO wins Virginia by a narrow margin. Don't blame me, blame the party that professes to be the "party for hunters". |
Iranandbacko3......what your saying is SCREW THE COUNTRY....just so long as I GET TO HUNT ON SUNDAYS......That's Sad.......
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Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3979781)
Iranandbacko3......what your saying is SCREW THE COUNTRY....just so long as I GET TO HUNT ON SUNDAYS......That's Sad.......
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Originally Posted by Iraqandback03
(Post 3979773)
I don't want to see Kaine or BO win. However, the Republican have made their bed and have been warned for years that this was coming. Now they need to lie in that bed or change their stance. It would be a real kick in the crotch if BO wins Virginia by a narrow margin. Don't blame me, blame the party that professes to be the "party for hunters". |
Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3979829)
No that is politics. tough isn't it.
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Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3979758)
Eyedr.....do realize that Kane is a liberal socialist...???...he was chairman for the DNC...he's for obamacare .....higher taxes...bigger government ...more entitlements ....he's ANTI GUN...and in my opinion if your anti gun....your ANTI HUNTING....IF he were to win he will be voting on things that will have an impact on your life....he WILL VOTE LIBERAL....for all of the things above....and IMO that's not good...I want Sunday Hunting as much as everyone else on this board....i will vote Allen over Kane...because its not just about Sunday Hunting...this election is bigger then Sunday Hunting....it's about saving America from the LIBERAL SOCIALIST like Obama and Kane .....
I agree with you brewman. Sunday hunting is very important to me, but there are a lot of issues, especially at the national level, that are more important for my kids and future grand kids. Kaine will vote with Obama come hell or high water....and IMO this will not be good for our future generations. What good will it be in the future if we can hunt on Sundays but only a select few are allowed guns? |
Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3979829)
No that is politics. tough isn't it.
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Originally Posted by VAhuntr
(Post 3979873)
I agree with you brewman. Sunday hunting is very important to me, but there are a lot of issues, especially at the national level, that are more important for my kids and future grand kids. Kaine will vote with Obama come hell or high water....and IMO this will not be good for our future generations. What good will it be in the future if we can hunt on Sundays but only a select few are allowed guns?
it PASSED......just not at the loss of the rest of our FREEDOMS... |
Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3979836)
I guess you don't care what happens to this country either....your one of them it's all about me guys....
Saying people do not care about the country is a total and complete insult to people you know not a lot about. But then is the fall back statement who have nowhere else to go. Sounds very liberal to me. When all else fails deceive, deflect and degrade. See anyone can make insulting statements. |
Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3980034)
And there are many here who do not want to do what is necessary to make change. Yet they will let others lie to them, take them for granted and do whatever they need to and get elected then say sorry supporters you didn't really believe me did you. It was only a campaign statement.
Saying people do not care about the country is a total and complete insult to people you know not a lot about. But then is the fall back statement who have nowhere else to go. Sounds very liberal to me. When all else fails deceive, deflect and degrade. See anyone can make insulting statements. |
Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3979781)
Iranandbacko3......what your saying is SCREW THE COUNTRY....just so long as I GET TO HUNT ON SUNDAYS......That's Sad.......
You say it is not that important to you, I'm cool with that. Your choice obviously. Have you let them know how distraught you are over Republicans loosing faith in the party because of their lack of support for hunters? If not, you aren't involved in the process. You shouldn't be trying to convince me I'm wrong. Let the Republicans know that their position on SH is damaging their reputation in the hunting community. We don't work for the politicians, they work for us. Please email [email protected] and cc: Speaker Howell at [email protected] and unload both barrells on them, not me. Tell them that you are a diehard supporter and intend to vote Republican every single time a vote is cast but you are all spun up over what you are hearing in the hunting community about the perception that the Republican Party Leadership is actively restricting hunter access to the woods. |
Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3980110)
It's only an insult if it's true......if you vote for Obama and / or vote for kane then you don't care about this country....and if you vote for either one that makes you a liberal.....once again...This is the most important election in your lifetime.....it's about way more then Sunday Hunting.....I hope you do the right thing ....for yourself....your family and your Country.....
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Does this sounds like a friend to the hunter or more like a card carrying HSUS member? He seriously brought up accidental arrowing...
"Bullets travel without regard to property lines—and so do shotgun pellets or slugs or even arrows from powerful-enough bows. And always, for an unsuspecting equestrian, there is the peril of encountering a hunter who misconstrues a horse—or a person—for a deer or any other game." Chairman of Natural Resources Subcommittee Delegate Lee Ware February 1, 2012 (Republican - Chesterfield, Fluvanna, Goochland, and Powhatan) PS - A count of the commentors on his opinion piece regarding restricting hunter access to the woods 18 for Sunday Hunting 8 against Sunday Hunting 2 neutral http://www.powhatantoday.com/index.php/opinion/article/move-to-allow-sunday-hunting-disregards-the-common-good/P0/See More |
Let me start off by saying to iraqandback03 and vapahuntr Thank You for you service to our Country......you guys can vote for whoever you feel is best for your intrest......I cannot and will not vote for a socialist liberal like Kane or a communist DICTATOR like Obama.....at least IF either one gets elected I know I didn't have anything to do with it and tried to prevent it.......so IF they get in and the country goes to hell....which it will if Obama gets 4 more years......I know it wasn't because I put Sunday Hunting ahead of the good of this country......to vote for Kane over Allen would make me a liberal...to vote for Obama would make me a treasonist......
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Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3980284)
Let me start off by saying to iraqandback03 and vapahuntr Thank You for you service to our Country......you guys can vote for whoever you feel is best for your intrest......I cannot and will not vote for a socialist liberal like Kane or a communist DICTATOR like Obama.....at least IF either one gets elected I know I didn't have anything to do with it and tried to prevent it.......so IF they get in and the country goes to hell....which it will if Obama gets 4 more years......I know it wasn't because I put Sunday Hunting ahead of the good of this country......to vote for Kane over Allen would make me a liberal...to vote for Obama would make me a treasonist......
We can agree to disagree, but I might recommend you to a dictionary. Obama is not a Communist, he is not a Socialist, and voting for Obama is not a violation of treason. The problem with the upcoming election on the national level is that both choices leave a hell of a lot to be desired. Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles and he is really out of touch with the working class American. He scares the crap out of me. Obama on the other hand has a country on the brink of bankruptcy with all we owe to China, is trying to force his health reform on the country, and is out of touch with private business. Pick your poison. Both options make it hard to have faith that my son and daughter will have a bright future here in this great country. The real problem with our disfunctional country is Congress. The Republicans are sitting on their asses making sure that nothing gets accomplished until the election so Obama doesnt look good before election day. There is no budget and nothing is getting done at all. It is time for this country to have BOTH sides work together and try to promote America instead of trying to only promote THEIR party. It is disgusting. The only way we get out of this hole we have dug is to work together. End of my national political soapbox. The most important thing for us to do is write each and everyone of the Va. State representatives and senators on the sub committees and express the issues with the Sunday Hunting ban. |
Originally Posted by brewman555
(Post 3980284)
Let me start off by saying to iraqandback03 and vapahuntr Thank You for you service to our Country......you guys can vote for whoever you feel is best for your intrest......I cannot and will not vote for a socialist liberal like Kane or a communist DICTATOR like Obama.....at least IF either one gets elected I know I didn't have anything to do with it and tried to prevent it.......so IF they get in and the country goes to hell....which it will if Obama gets 4 more years......I know it wasn't because I put Sunday Hunting ahead of the good of this country......to vote for Kane over Allen would make me a liberal...to vote for Obama would make me a treasonist......
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Originally Posted by Eyedr
(Post 3980310)
We can agree to disagree, but I might recommend you to a dictionary. Obama is not a Communist, he is not a Socialist, and voting for Obama is not a violation of treason.
The problem with the upcoming election on the national level is that both choices leave a hell of a lot to be desired. Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles and he is really out of touch with the working class American. He scares the crap out of me. Obama on the other hand has a country on the brink of bankruptcy with all we owe to China, is trying to force his health reform on the country, and is out of touch with private business. Pick your poison. Both options make it hard to have faith that my son and daughter will have a bright future here in this great country. The real problem with our disfunctional country is Congress. The Republicans are sitting on their asses making sure that nothing gets accomplished until the election so Obama doesnt look good before election day. There is no budget and nothing is getting done at all. It is time for this country to have BOTH sides work together and try to promote America instead of trying to only promote THEIR party. It is disgusting. The only way we get out of this hole we have dug is to work together. End of my national political soapbox. The most important thing for us to do is write each and everyone of the Va. State representatives and senators on the sub committees and express the issues with the Sunday Hunting ban. Eyedr....I don't need a dictionary to tell about the word communism or socialism when it comes to Obama...... His Mother was a Communist..... His Grandparrents were Communist..... His Mentor....Frank Marshall Davis was a Self Avowed Communist.... From Obamas book...Dreams From My Father he wrote....."I chose my friends carefully .....The more political active black students....The MARXIST Professors and structural feminist"...... Obama started his political career in the home of Bill Ayers... Bill Ayers was the Co-Founder of Weather Underground...they claimed responsibility for a DOZEN BOMBINGS in the 60's.... One was the Pentagon ...... Ayres is a FELLON...... Obama was a member of the DSA.... Democrat SOCIALIST of America in 1996...... Obama trained ACORN employees....... Obama represented ACORN in a Lawsuit....... Obama told Joe The Plumber......"Spread The Wealth Around"..... Obamacare is SOCIALIZED Health Care...... I could go on and on....there is SO MUCH MORE ..... But I think i'v made my point..... Obama is a Communist and a SOCIALIST..... try this web site....I hope it works...... http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=l-HqH...feature=fvwrl Now about Romney..... He is a Self Made Millionaire.... He donated his ENTIRE INHERITANCE to Mormon Charities..... At Bain Capital he saved MANY companies from going under.....Lots FAILED but many more were SUCCESSFUL..... Obama was a Community Organizer...... And NOW as President there are 25,000.000 UNEMPLOYED that are COUNTED ......And a TOTAL of around 89,000,000 that DONT HAVE JOBS....The Government just dont count ALL these people because they STOPPED LOOKING for work....... Obama had a House And Senate the were Democrat run for the first TWO years of his term....08 to 10.....so dont blame the Republicans for things not getting done.... Also Obama put HIS BUDGET up to be voted on and NOT ONE DEMOCRAT VOTED FOR IT....... So dont BLAME the Republicams for sitting on their ASSES........ Harry Reid and Nancy Pelosi are blocking much of what comes from the House....They are both Democrats..... And the way we get out of this hole were in is GETTING RID OF OBAMA and ELECTING ROMNEY and The Republicans KEEP the House and WIN back the SENATE...... Sorry for getting off topic guys....but I couldn't let this one slide.... |
Originally Posted by Eyedr
(Post 3980310)
We can agree to disagree, but I might recommend you to a dictionary. Obama is not a Communist, he is not a Socialist, and voting for Obama is not a violation of treason.
The problem with the upcoming election on the national level is that both choices leave a hell of a lot to be desired. Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles and he is really out of touch with the working class American. He scares the crap out of me. Obama on the other hand has a country on the brink of bankruptcy with all we owe to China, is trying to force his health reform on the country, and is out of touch with private business. Pick your poison. Both options make it hard to have faith that my son and daughter will have a bright future here in this great country. The real problem with our disfunctional country is Congress. The Republicans are sitting on their asses making sure that nothing gets accomplished until the election so Obama doesnt look good before election day. There is no budget and nothing is getting done at all. It is time for this country to have BOTH sides work together and try to promote America instead of trying to only promote THEIR party. It is disgusting. The only way we get out of this hole we have dug is to work together. End of my national political soapbox. The most important thing for us to do is write each and everyone of the Va. State representatives and senators on the sub committees and express the issues with the Sunday Hunting ban. http://www.washingtonpost.com/politi...0e8_story.html IMO, Obama and his policies are detrimental to our country. I'm not a fan of "redistribution of wealth" as Obama is. I'm sure many others in here feel the same as I do. I also feel coal is one of our country's great resources and Obama and the EPA policies are going to kill us. This is one of my problems with Kaine as he will vote with Obama on any issue. |
Allen is correct in saying that it is a state issue and not a federal one. The election to change the outcome of Sunday hunting is in 2013.
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Originally Posted by vadeer
(Post 3981134)
Allen is correct in saying that it is a state issue and not a federal one. The election to change the outcome of Sunday hunting is in 2013.
So yes it is a state issue BUT politicians get elected by campaigning on state issues that are affected on a national scale. Also what they say affects state level issues. So where is the Senior Republican support or even disagreement with the removal of this ban. They all are convienently silent on it. Why is that???? Get them to go public and see what happens. |
Romney hasnt had a real job in the past 12 years. Every company he has touched he has left bankrupt and in shambles... Back to the topic (forgive me if this has been covered--I haven't read the whole thing lately). It is a state issue. I am an avid hunter, and have been all my life. I know that, in my area, there are lots of rual churches, surrounded by a lot of prime hunting land. Folks just don't care to have their worship services interrupted by the sound of high powered rifles. If the folks that want hunting on Sunday become a majority, they they can vote in politicians who will put their interests first. Chad |
Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.
Saying that you are going to vote for a Democrat because Republicans are not sufficiently pro-gun is like moving to Alaska because Virginia is not sufficiently warm. Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by LBR
(Post 3981524)
Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.
The old adage is "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's plain stupid to do that. The dem party is supported by groups like peta and hci, who in turn supports them. Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by vapahunter
(Post 3981469)
And he is absolutely correct BUT he can influence how the vote goes on a state level. If all the senior Republican leadership came out and said they are for removal of the ban on General Sunday hunting it would be gone during the next General assembly. Totally and completely gone. The only one who has ever came out publicly was McDonnel when he said he would support removal of the ban on private property. That was before he got elected. Since then not a single peep out of any one of them.
So yes it is a state issue BUT politicians get elected by campaigning on state issues that are affected on a national scale. Also what they say affects state level issues. So where is the Senior Republican support or even disagreement with the removal of this ban. They all are convienently silent on it. Why is that???? Get them to go public and see what happens. |
Originally Posted by LBR
(Post 3981524)
Just scanned over most of the posts. This one statement covers it very well IMO.
The old adage is "cutting off your nose to spite your face". It's plain stupid to do that. The dem party is supported by groups like peta and hci, who in turn supports them. Someone who is a hunter and gun owner voting dem, especially on a national level, is akin to trying to put out a fire by throwing gas on it. Makes no sense whatsoever. |
Originally Posted by VAhuntr
(Post 3981576)
Your theory does not hold water since Allen was defeated 2 years ago by the Democrat Jim Webb. If electing a democratic US Senator made that much difference then I'd be sitting in a tree stand right now instead of writing this post.
EXCELLENT POST VAhuntr..... |
Did any one expect Webb of Warner to do anything about Sunday Hunting? No. Does anybody expect Republicans to do anything about Sunday Hunting? Apparently yes because they get a lot of the hunters vote. So my theory either holds water or hunters are more stupid than many people think. Why because they keep voting for a party that screws them over in the Commonwealth of Virginia.
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