Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
08-20-2008 | 11:13 AM
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Boone & Crockett
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
Most gun bans are the end result of a gradual process undr the guise of"reform" and "better regulation" that were initiated by fairly small groups of people with an agenda. Sounds pretty close to me.
I'm sure the animal rights people who are also involved with this scheme are actually deeply concerned aboutexisting right of retrieval laws[
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I'm sure the animal rights people who are also involved with this scheme are actually deeply concerned aboutexisting right of retrieval laws[
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08-20-2008 | 12:01 PM
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Fork Horn
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From: VIRGINIA
RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
I will atleast say your giving it your all. lcc you will not be able to talk to some of these guys on this subject, they dont want to hear it if it dosent cater to them
Just forget about it and let em argue with themselves and enjoy the upcoming hunting season.....after hunting season they will start all over again.
08-20-2008 | 12:14 PM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
Well, its generally the same handful of people that pop up every time there is a threadrelated to this topic.You just gotta make sure that other folks understand the whole situation and what could be at risk in the greater scheme of things.
I'm actually a bit worried about them being out and about during hunting season. Sounds like some of them may end up going postal the minute they see a truck with a dog box[]But, just as easily,it sounds like the first time they hear a dog bark any where near their stand, they are gonna pronounce theirentire day (or season) ruined and go home and get back on the computer for another round.
I'm actually a bit worried about them being out and about during hunting season. Sounds like some of them may end up going postal the minute they see a truck with a dog box[
]But, just as easily,it sounds like the first time they hear a dog bark any where near their stand, they are gonna pronounce theirentire day (or season) ruined and go home and get back on the computer for another round.
08-20-2008 | 02:48 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
Thank God its a small % who feel like some of these guys do. I hunt in 2 different counties and very rarly hear of somone complain about a dog[8D]trespassing! I love to still hunt, actually I still hunt most of the time, and from time to time I have a dog interupt my hunt but would never think about harming a dog for this. Most of the ones who want change want minor changes to thr rtr law, which i agree with, its the couple of crazies who cry wolf every other day and want to shoot dogs that people are sick[:'(]of. i guess they will just have to get over themselves or quit hunting.
08-20-2008 | 04:25 PM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
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Thank God its a small % who feel like some of these guys do. I hunt in 2 different counties and very rarly hear of somone complain about a dog[8D]trespassing! I love to still hunt, actually I still hunt most of the time, and from time to time I have a dog interupt my hunt but would never think about harming a dog for this. Most of the ones who want change want minor changes to thr rtr law, which i agree with, its the couple of crazies who cry wolf every other day and want to shoot dogs that people are sick[:'(]of. i guess they will just have to get over themselves or quit hunting.
Thank God its a small % who feel like some of these guys do. I hunt in 2 different counties and very rarly hear of somone complain about a dog[8D]trespassing! I love to still hunt, actually I still hunt most of the time, and from time to time I have a dog interupt my hunt but would never think about harming a dog for this. Most of the ones who want change want minor changes to thr rtr law, which i agree with, its the couple of crazies who cry wolf every other day and want to shoot dogs that people are sick[:'(]of. i guess they will just have to get over themselves or quit hunting.
08-20-2008 | 11:59 PM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
ORIGINAL: Lanse couche couche
Yeah, and if I lived in Morton Grove Illinois, I might agree with their handgun band....
Yeah, and if I lived in Morton Grove Illinois, I might agree with their handgun band....
08-21-2008 | 05:03 AM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
I do most of my hunting in prince george and a little in sussex but not far into sussex, right across the county line from prince george. there was one guy last year who had a problem when he heard a dog during his hunt, even shot one of the beagles(the beagle was not hurt that bad and was running within the week) but after the landowner found out he lost the lease. He hunted there for 2 years killed a deer off the dog 1 year(and thanked us) and wanted to kill it the next.
08-21-2008 | 06:38 AM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
I hunted in Sussex last year of Rt 40 just over the Nottaway. They chased every Sat of bow except one. The adjoining clubs pens bordered the land we had. The had a field and 1 acre of woods. You could hear the truck drive up, the dogs go wild and then some how they were inside the fence on our side. I did later on bid on a lease in Sussex and the farmer only wanted still hunters as he had dog club issues and didn't want them in there. Can't say all of Sussex as I was only in one part of it. But both parcels of land I was on had issues. They were 10 miles apart. 2 out of 2 seems like 100% to me.
08-21-2008 | 08:21 AM
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
Actually rick, coon hunting and running coyotes with hounds is very common, along with hunting with bird dogs and beagles. ALL of those activities overlap with deer season but problems are pretty dam rare. I've never had a still deer hunt, squirrel hunt, or varmint huntthat i can honestly say was interupted by dogs, even if they were in the same general area. In therecent instance where i can recall the coyote hounds coming thru while a friend was deer hunting on an adjacent tract of land, they actually ran a bunch of deerright toward him. However, despite the fact that deer hunter/dog confrontations are pretty rare, there is always a small core of deer hunters who would love to see ALL forms of dog hunting go the way of the buffalo so that that they can have the woods to themselves. And they can always find animal rights activists willing to climb into bed with them for that cause. Youare pretty sillyif you don't understandthat a similar mindset operates with a significant portion of the folks in VA that want to "reform" hound hunting. The states amy be different, but theoverall agenda of the anti-hunters remain the same.
08-21-2008 | 01:42 PM
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Fork Horn
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RE: Virginians for Hound Hunting Reform
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Actually rick, coon hunting and running coyotes with hounds is very common, along with hunting with bird dogs and beagles. ALL of those activities overlap with deer season but problems are pretty dam rare. I've never had a still deer hunt, squirrel hunt, or varmint huntthat i can honestly say was interupted by dogs, even if they were in the same general area. In therecent instance where i can recall the coyote hounds coming thru while a friend was deer hunting on an adjacent tract of land, they actually ran a bunch of deerright toward him. However, despite the fact that deer hunter/dog confrontations are pretty rare, there is always a small core of deer hunters who would love to see ALL forms of dog hunting go the way of the buffalo so that that they can have the woods to themselves. And they can always find animal rights activists willing to climb into bed with them for that cause. Youare pretty sillyif you don't understandthat a similar mindset operates with a significant portion of the folks in VA that want to "reform" hound hunting. The states amy be different, but theoverall agenda of the anti-hunters remain the same.
Actually rick, coon hunting and running coyotes with hounds is very common, along with hunting with bird dogs and beagles. ALL of those activities overlap with deer season but problems are pretty dam rare. I've never had a still deer hunt, squirrel hunt, or varmint huntthat i can honestly say was interupted by dogs, even if they were in the same general area. In therecent instance where i can recall the coyote hounds coming thru while a friend was deer hunting on an adjacent tract of land, they actually ran a bunch of deerright toward him. However, despite the fact that deer hunter/dog confrontations are pretty rare, there is always a small core of deer hunters who would love to see ALL forms of dog hunting go the way of the buffalo so that that they can have the woods to themselves. And they can always find animal rights activists willing to climb into bed with them for that cause. Youare pretty sillyif you don't understandthat a similar mindset operates with a significant portion of the folks in VA that want to "reform" hound hunting. The states amy be different, but theoverall agenda of the anti-hunters remain the same.
So what happens in Ill. If you go on posted land without permission?
I don't see complaints here about coon, rabbit, or (real)foxhounds. As faras bird dogs, I can say I've never had a problem with mine hunting off property that I have permission to be on.
If you want to talk about climbing in bed with PETA and HSUS. The VHDA did that to block lifting the ban on Sunday hunting in VA. So WHO is anti-hunting?
Call me silly if you want. I've never said that hounds shouldn't be run where they're legal and the hunters have permission. I also expect them stay off prohibited land and it's their problem to figure out how to do that.It's not my problem to learn to live with it.