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deerdogdude 03-02-2008 02:07 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 
well said!lmfao, But I will say for the ones(if any) that actually have the problem of hunters illegally hunting or using loopholes to hunt others land have every right to be upset. For the ones who cry cause a dog comes in their hunt from another hunt? They are the ones who need grow up.

rick64 03-02-2008 03:09 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: deerdogdude

well said!lmfao, But I will say for the ones(if any) that actually have the problem of hunters illegally hunting or using loopholes to hunt others land have every right to be upset. For the ones who cry cause a dog comes in their hunt from another hunt? They are the ones who need grow up.
So you and Imfao think that folks that don't want dogs run across their property just need to learn how to live with it? And you are the same hunters that don't see why there's problems now in VA.

rick64 03-02-2008 03:38 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: rlfarmsva

Here they go again.THE SAME PEOPLE who build houses beside air bases and then complain about jet noise.THE SAME PEOPLE who move from the city,buy a peice of property,put up a fence and a gate even before they(if ever)try to get to know their neighbor who probably has lived there all his life,then decide the don't like the way things are so I"ll do my best to change them.They build in the middle of a field and complain about the farmer spraying or plowing the field beside the house.They build beside a hog house or cow pasture,then complain about the smell.They complain about the farmer blocking the road with wide equipment.I don"t see why they don"t just move to a place where people thank like them.Oh sorry,I guess that might mean more jet noise,traffic and murder.I dog hunt and still hunt.If you would sit in your stand a few minutes more until the dogs pass(even if you don" shoot the deer witch most do because its probably the first one they haveseen all day)the woods will shortly return to normal.The deer that is not being run by the dogs will stand and watch them pass and then return to normal activities.I wish you would all move back to the city and quit trying to ruin our lives.

All the example you give don't directly affect their property, other than the dogs and handler runningacross their land.The farmers not plowing their land, the cows aren't grazing on their pasture, and the plane isn't landing in their field(hopefully).

Bigg~BirddVA 03-02-2008 04:15 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: rlfarmsva

Here they go again.THE SAME PEOPLE who build houses beside air bases and then complain about jet noise.THE SAME PEOPLE who move from the city,buy a peice of property,put up a fence and a gate even before they(if ever)try to get to know their neighbor who probably has lived there all his life,then decide the don't like the way things are so I"ll do my best to change them.They build in the middle of a field and complain about the farmer spraying or plowing the field beside the house.They build beside a hog house or cow pasture,then complain about the smell.They complain about the farmer blocking the road with wide equipment.I don"t see why they don"t just move to a place where people thank like them.Oh sorry,I guess that might mean more jet noise,traffic and murder.I dog hunt and still hunt.If you would sit in your stand a few minutes more until the dogs pass(even if you don" shoot the deer witch most do because its probably the first one they haveseen all day)the woods will shortly return to normal.The deer that is not being run by the dogs will stand and watch them pass and then return to normal activities.I wish you would all move back to the city and quit trying to ruin our lives.

The perfect example of why change is inevitable. Some just do not get it and never will.

deerdogdude 03-02-2008 05:04 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 
no thats not what im saying.I just said( incase you didnt see the entire post) that it is not alright for illegal access or legal if they have the intent to enter(person or dog.) Let meclear it up.. I dont think a dog every now and again running across your property should be a big deal.during any dog season it might happen.I agree if it becomes a habbit or was done on purpose that it is a very big deal, and laws should be changed to stop people from just being able to cross on anothers property.

rick64 03-02-2008 05:22 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: deerdogdude

no thats not what im saying.I just said( incase you didnt see the entire post) that it is not alright for illegal access or legal if they have the intent to enter(person or dog.) Let meclear it up.. I dont think a dog every now and again running across your property should be a big deal.during any dog season it might happen.I agree if it becomes a habbit or was done on purpose that it is a very big deal, and laws should be changed to stop people from just being able to cross on anothers property.
Did you agree withrlfarmsva?


deerdogdude 03-02-2008 05:28 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 
Yea,, alot of people are like that. but the ones that this is truly a problem for ,then they have every right to be upset and should call the law. absolutly! and im sure the 5 or 6 on this thred do have those problems. Just dont make it seem like all dog hunters are like that because most are not.

deepzak 03-03-2008 03:25 AM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: rlfarmsva

Here they go again.THE SAME PEOPLE who build houses beside air bases and then complain about jet noise.THE SAME PEOPLE who move from the city,buy a peice of property,put up a fence and a gate even before they(if ever)try to get to know their neighbor who probably has lived there all his life,then decide the don't like the way things are so I"ll do my best to change them.They build in the middle of a field and complain about the farmer spraying or plowing the field beside the house.They build beside a hog house or cow pasture,then complain about the smell.They complain about the farmer blocking the road with wide equipment.I don"t see why they don"t just move to a place where people thank like them.Oh sorry,I guess that might mean more jet noise,traffic and murder.I dog hunt and still hunt.If you would sit in your stand a few minutes more until the dogs pass(even if you don" shoot the deer witch most do because its probably the first one they haveseen all day)the woods will shortly return to normal.The deer that is not being run by the dogs will stand and watch them pass and then return to normal activities.I wish you would all move back to the city and quit trying to ruin our lives.

This is a very arrogant posting.[8D] What you are saying is that when someone lays out their hard earned money and buys a piece of property and pays the taxes on it, that they should not be allowed to do whatever they want with it because someone has been running dogs on it for the last 10 years. I must ask then, why didn't YOU buy the property so that you can continue the "tradition"? All you had to do to buy it is offer more money.

I have never shot a deer in front of dogs, yet, unlike in your posting, I see deer all the time. I killed 7 this year, 9 last year and 7 the year before. Those are the ones that I chose to shoot and not counting the ones that I let walk. To say that it is impossible to hunt SE VA without dogs is a lie. To say that dog running contributes so significantly to the annual deer harvest is a mis-direction of the truth; they do add to the annual deer harvest, but it could also be done without dogs if people actually put time and effort into their hunting. And just so you know, because you are either releasing the hounds or on stand waiting for them so you don't necessarily see, deer do not just stand there when a pack of dogs are coming, they leave the area, usually in a hurry.


Bigg~BirddVA 03-03-2008 06:50 AM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 

ORIGINAL: deepzak


ORIGINAL: rlfarmsva

Here they go again.THE SAME PEOPLE who build houses beside air bases and then complain about jet noise.THE SAME PEOPLE who move from the city,buy a peice of property,put up a fence and a gate even before they(if ever)try to get to know their neighbor who probably has lived there all his life,then decide the don't like the way things are so I"ll do my best to change them.They build in the middle of a field and complain about the farmer spraying or plowing the field beside the house.They build beside a hog house or cow pasture,then complain about the smell.They complain about the farmer blocking the road with wide equipment.I don"t see why they don"t just move to a place where people thank like them.Oh sorry,I guess that might mean more jet noise,traffic and murder.I dog hunt and still hunt.If you would sit in your stand a few minutes more until the dogs pass(even if you don" shoot the deer witch most do because its probably the first one they haveseen all day)the woods will shortly return to normal.The deer that is not being run by the dogs will stand and watch them pass and then return to normal activities.I wish you would all move back to the city and quit trying to ruin our lives.

This is a very arrogant posting. What you are saying is that when someone lays out their hard earned money and buys a piece of property and pays the taxes on it, that they should not be allowed to do whatever they want with it because someone has been running dogs on it for the last 10 years. I must ask then, why didn't YOU buy the property so that you can continue the "tradition"? All you had to do to buy it is offer more money.

I have never shot a deer in front of dogs, yet, unlike in your posting, I see deer all the time. I killed 7 this year, 9 last year and 7 the year before. Those are the ones that I chose to shoot and not counting the ones that I let walk. To say that it is impossible to hunt SE VA without dogs is a lie. To say that dog running contributes so significantly to the annual deer harvest is a mis-direction of the truth; they do add to the annual deer harvest, but it could also be done without dogs if people actually put time and effort into their hunting. And just so you know, because you are either releasing the hounds or on stand waiting for them so you don't necessarily see, deer do not just stand there when a pack of dogs are coming, they leave the area, usually in a hurry.

You hit the nail on the head with that one. Try finding a hotel or place to stay west of the no-dog line during gun season. It's hunting that helps the economy, not specifically dog hunting. If deer dogging is so darn effetive why are there so many damage permits issues east of the blue ridge? Just more dog chasing BS that's been repeated over and over in hopes people will buy it.

davidlj 03-03-2008 12:40 PM

RE: Virginia Dog Hunting
 
Spending $20.00 for gas on a round trip Maryland to Virginia only to be screwed by some idiot who let the dogs out on the road to run deer on the property I am on. Really pisses me off.[:@]


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