RE: Running Dogs In VA
 

All dog hunters trespass? Darn, i will have to pass that assessment along to my family in Louisiana that hunt on leased timber land that is literally miles away from any private ground. Ditto for folks I know in florida whose dog hunting clubs lease tens of thousands of acres of landm, then have to deal with trespass by other kinds of deer hunters. It is misinformed statements like "all dog hunters trespass" that that makes it difficult to take the comments of most anti-dog hunters seriously.

Sorry guys, but the simple fact is that non-dog hunters, in terms of both overall numbers and percentages, are likely responsible for far more instances of trespass, property damage, and slob hunting than dog hunters. And feel free to check with your local game wardens if you don't believe me.
When you can learn to live with that reality, you will be less inclined to make blanket, unfounded criticisms of other hunting styles.

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WHOA, right there. I hunt on 70,000 continous acres. I have never trepassed in my life on someone's property to retreive dogs. We have 3 large DOG HUNTING clubs in our county withvery few complaintsto the FWC a year. Not all deer doggers are trepassers.

Dont make a blanket statement like that, it just shows your ignorance towards the subject at hand.

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We need to work together to fight the deer dog hunters. They say that deer dog hunting is a tradition. Riding around in a truck following a dog with a tracking collar or GPS is not a tradition.Why should the VDGIF let the deer dog hunterscontinue to use dogs and break more laws? They may not be robbing a bank but they are still breaking the law when they shot 10 or 20 bucks a year. Sure there are some deer dog hunters that hunt the dogs the right way. Most of the dog hunters in this area shoot as many deer as they can because their dogs are running them. Also many of these so-called hunters do not care if the land is posted.Hunting with deer dogs is a joke. I'm glad so many people are posting these great comments against the deer dog hunters. It seems that the deer dog hunters that are posting their comments are mad because the truth is coming out about how these outlaws hunt.

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No mainly we get mad when people make ignorant blanket statement comments and lump good, respectful, law abiding dog hunters in with whatever bad experiences they have had in their lives. Take for example your comment....that is some very thorough research there and the numbers are shocking, those dog hunters are bad, thanks for bringing those horror stories to light for us. You forgot to mention that it is a known fact that every person that violates a game law or poaches or trespasses or doesn't tag their deer correctly they are all dog hunters or related to one(or they at least own a dog).

I doubt you know any one hunter who kills 10-20 bucks a season but if you do then his correct title is poacher, not dog hunter and you should probably report him to the game warden. As far as the amount of deer killed, Va has very liberal bag limits and many clubs hunt with the DMAP program sopeople can kill just about whatever is running and however many they wantbecause probably 75% of the time what'sbeing runare does. If dog hunting and dog hunting clubs were removed from VA do you have any idea the population problems we would have. Who is going to pick up the slack in the deer harvest #'s, still hunters? Not likely unless the season was about 3 months longer and I don't say that as an attack on still hunters because I am one of those aswell it's just that realistically dog clubs generealyy harvest a lot of deer..

Great first post by the way, do you know "Corky" from that old TVseries "Life Goes On"?

I was just wondering.

RE: Running Dogs In VA
 

I have read these posts for years. In my area everyone is a dog hunter so we work together and we do not have the situations that others are having. We also work closely with our land owners and if, and it does not happen that much, dogs do get off of our land we get permission to retrieve them. We have a lot of land and our dogs came run for hours and not go off of our land. It is tradition and it will continue to be for a long time.

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NEW61375 Yes I do know Corky,I spoke to your father just last week and yes I do know numerous people that kill 10 to 20 bucks a year. They shoot every buck and doethat see because their dogs are running them. We have 1 game warden in our county and 700 square miles. He can not stop all of you. O I'm sorry you said that you are not a poacher. In my statement I said that there are some deer dog hunters that hunt the right way. Well you need to tell your friends to stop breaking the law. And further more deer dog hunting will be over in the next 5 years anyway. So why don't move to another state so that you can run your S..T eating dogs. We have hundred of people ready to the state's survey in my area. One thing that you are right about is that there are still hunters that hunt like slobs too. :D

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What a gem! That's good stuff right there, my dad (Bennie) says hello. If this is what post 1 and 2 are all about I anxiously await your future contributions. But seriously,my friends aren't breaking any game laws and unlike you I am not aware of individuals killing 10-20 bucks a season if I were the game warden or VDGIFwould have already been contacted. But I wouldn't expect you to do anything proactive, just come on here and piss and moan about dog hunters and their s**t eating dogs but by all means don't contact the VDGIF and let them know of the situation you are faced with and the lack of law enforcement. You say you have hundreds of people in your areaready to take a survey but at the same timethere isnoone to combat the problems. That doesn't make much sense, instead of taking a survey why don'tyou and your 100'sfile a complaint,register a petition with hundreds of signatures from your area with the VDGIF, demand a meeting to address the situation.On second thought,nevermind don't do anything, fill out your survey andcome on an internet site and blame me forthe problems in your area. God forbid youget up off your arse and do anything. I understand, it'sjust easier to do nothing and whine about it than to do somethingand help yourself. Me moving to another state and dog hunting being banned in VA, definitely two things that won't happen in the next 5 years, and you can quote me on that. However, the dogs have been known to eat their own s**t on occasion so I'm pretty sure that will happen again soon.;)

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You anti-doggers spell it with me: T-R-A-D-I-T-I-O-N. this is the reason why deer hunting with dogs will be around a little longer.

Florida had this same problem with land owners and property rights laws.the FWC had a couple meetings and made us "register" our dog hunting clubs and dogs, thats it. Not much has changed our sport., for every land taken away, more is provided bythe state.

I amhoping the surveys will be taken and the state will put some minor regulations on dog hunting at the most, if any action is taken. It really depends on how much $$$, as in the cost to benefit ratio of dog hunting. Dog hunting will probably remain and most property owners will go on their merry way. I am not saying dog hunting will be around forever, but i don think it will be hastily made illegal. More of a phasing out by regulations, that is how states do it.

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Well I can't say as that I'm surprised by your posts, more retardation shining through. If you had looked at my pics you would have seen that the vast majority are still hunting photos so I'm pretty sure my learning curve is ok there. As far as the size of bucks I guess it would matter if I claimed to be some kind of trophy hunter but I haven't and will continue to shoot any deer I choose, I guess you feel like you have to kill big antlers to make up for your other shortcomings, your right I don't have a girlfriend but as you can tell I have been speaking to yours, I wouldn't even bringher up but since we are talking about dogs. Throw a tracking collar on her and you can even see where I live.

Yeah I'm about 30 and if your ever inSoutheast VA during dog season give me a shout, we can meet up and turn some dogs out, it will be fun.;)

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Let's turn a mess of hounds loose on this little sissy!! Watch him squeel like a piggy!!