electronic calls ethical?
#1
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From: Chilliwack, BC,Canada
personally i would never use one because i dont think that it is ethical to use just because it works to good. Someone is probebly saying "if there is a golf club that makes you hit farther why dont you use it?" well the fact is even there is limits in golf clubs and i think that for hunting being able to use electronic calls is the limit/unethical (in BC, where i come from, you have never been allowed to use bait/electronic calls but the government has said that this year we can use electronic calls for predators) i just wanted to hear what everyone else thought
#2
I don't see an electronic call being any more unethical than calling with just your mouth and hands or a game call . Is calling itself ethical ? Sure it is .
My state allows them for predator , but is considering a proposal to allow them for other species . Baiting is illegal here .
My state allows them for predator , but is considering a proposal to allow them for other species . Baiting is illegal here .
#3
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Kevin;
I don't see your logic here. Comparing electronic calls to golf clubs. Do you consider using duck or goose calls unethical, what about turkey calls. Or using moose or elk calls, are these unethical? They all have there place in hunting. Some people don't consider using a compound bows as ethical. The way I see it if you do not want to use a certain call then don't. Just because you go out and use a e-caller, doesn't mean that every time you go out hunting your going to shoot or see an animal. This doesn't happen. Is it ethical to use dogs for hunting bear or cougar? Like I said before where is your logic here?
I don't see your logic here. Comparing electronic calls to golf clubs. Do you consider using duck or goose calls unethical, what about turkey calls. Or using moose or elk calls, are these unethical? They all have there place in hunting. Some people don't consider using a compound bows as ethical. The way I see it if you do not want to use a certain call then don't. Just because you go out and use a e-caller, doesn't mean that every time you go out hunting your going to shoot or see an animal. This doesn't happen. Is it ethical to use dogs for hunting bear or cougar? Like I said before where is your logic here?
#5
Nontypical Buck
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From: Bossier City LA United States
Using your logic you can't use a 22-250 Rem instead of a 223 Rem since you can shoot farther and faster. Oh wait, why would you be able to use a centerfire at all? Better use a rimfire since it is more challenging. Oh, scratch that, you have to use a rock and throw it because all firearms are unethical and shouldn't be used. Can't wear camo either since that gives you an advantage. For that matter you can't wear clothes at all since we were all born without them. Oh, and you can't use your cognitive reasoning since it would be unethical to gain an advantage over the animal....Geez.
#6
Typical Buck
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Of course they are ethical.
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"personally i would never use one because i dont think that it is ethical to use just because it works to good."
Who convinced you that they are any better than a mouth blown call?
A mouth blown call is more versatile. If you don't wish to use one, don't. I don't have a commercial electronic call, but I have no problem with those that have them, using them.
QUOTE:
"personally i would never use one because i dont think that it is ethical to use just because it works to good."
Who convinced you that they are any better than a mouth blown call?
A mouth blown call is more versatile. If you don't wish to use one, don't. I don't have a commercial electronic call, but I have no problem with those that have them, using them.
#7
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From: Seattle
I think just my .02$ worth is this.
The states/provinces have their own unique game regs which sets the stage for legal hunting methods & weapons in their own area. If its a "legal hunting method" in a perticular area, why as hunters try to judge other hunters when there are a ton of anti's out there that would love for us to start bickering amongst ourselves?
Heres a analogy. If I bowhunt traditionally & you bowhunt with a compound with carbon arrows are you being ethical? Its not in question b/c its a legal hunting method.
The other hand if you think ..............fishing for trout with explosives in BC on Lake Chilliwack is ok & BC hunting/fishing regs says its not legal, then its unethical, poaching & wrong.
All I'm trying to say is if its legal why give someone a hard time over the way someone else chooses to hunt or fish.
The states/provinces have their own unique game regs which sets the stage for legal hunting methods & weapons in their own area. If its a "legal hunting method" in a perticular area, why as hunters try to judge other hunters when there are a ton of anti's out there that would love for us to start bickering amongst ourselves?
Heres a analogy. If I bowhunt traditionally & you bowhunt with a compound with carbon arrows are you being ethical? Its not in question b/c its a legal hunting method.
The other hand if you think ..............fishing for trout with explosives in BC on Lake Chilliwack is ok & BC hunting/fishing regs says its not legal, then its unethical, poaching & wrong.
All I'm trying to say is if its legal why give someone a hard time over the way someone else chooses to hunt or fish.
#8
personally i would never use one because i dont think that it is ethical to use just because it works to good.
I have a lot of friends that call, and several of them call coyotes in competitions, and none, and I repeat, NONE of the competitions are won by guys using ecallers!
So, if Ecallers are that much better, why would that be? Because a person with a good selection of hand calls and the ability to use them well along with knowledge of his prey and what they prey on, will fool his prey easier by using his hand calls.
I also enter calling compititions, on occasion, and I also don't use, don't even own, an ecaller, and never will.
And also, to say an ecaller is "unethical" is way off base. To me, to shoot an animal, only to wound it, and not try to recover it, that is unethical! Or to shoot an elk with a .22lr, that is unethical!
If you have been led to beleive that you simply take an ecaller out hunting, turn it on, and you have instant success, you have been led down a dead-end road. I don't see it in any way as "cheating" when compared to my hand calls, as a matter of fact, I see it as being a "cruch" compared to good hand calls!


