didnt mean for u to get all upset about what i said, i didnt say i did it. up here natives can shoot what ever they want too, with whatever they want too. i just know a couple of them. i have seen it done. maybe our bears are weak up here, i dont know.

Try out this website for more info on the .17 HMR

http://www.cctrap.com/~varmint/17hmr.htm



By the way, Hornady claims a velocity of this .17 caliber/17 grain bullet to be at 2550 fps.

I drew first blood with my 17HMR this weedend, a squirrel at 60 yds out of a tree. 1 shot-clean kill with minimal damage. A+ in my book as I have it sighted in at 100yds and can hit 50 cent piece sized targets at 200! I hear you all on the wind drift issue, it be a bugger in the wind.

I shot my first anumal with my .17 last night...... It was a coon....... If i woulda hit it solid the first shot it woulda been dead right then and there but i broke his front leg, he was on the run....... second shot put him down real quick...

40-50 yard shot on the run. A+

also i can't even find the bullet hole for the second shot so its very fur friendly.

I've had mine for two months and love it on the range,but have not had chance to take it hunting yet. 2550fps

the 17 rimfire is goot out to 200 yards on a coyote, i use it all the time, i have droped 60 coyotes in the past 4 months with it, i havnt shot a center fire yet but plan on buying one some day. they are fun little guns once you learn how to shoot them well, if you go out and shoot a couple hundred every couple of days you get to know the gun awesome and when you go to shoot you know whats goin on out past ur barrel. u have to be good at judging windage and range past 200 yard. i have seen a rimfire hit a coyote at 300 yards, that the person shouldnt have tried a shot that far. it is all about shot placement