50 BMG
12-18-2007, 11:58 PM
#31
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Norwalk, Ohio
Posts: 4,443
RE: 50 BMG
Here is something i found about U.S. Army Snipers "Graduates of the U.S. Army sniper school are expected to achieve 90 percent first-round hits at 600 meters, using the M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS)."
*edit* You thought the .50 BMG was a big round check out these South African Anti-Material Guns, one in 14.5 mm and the other in 20mm!!!!! [:-] http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
*edit* You thought the .50 BMG was a big round check out these South African Anti-Material Guns, one in 14.5 mm and the other in 20mm!!!!! [:-] http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
12-19-2007, 09:48 AM
#32
Join Date: Jul 2006
Location: Nebraska
Posts: 131
RE: 50 BMG
ORIGINAL: Howler
This story smells real fishy. The only .50 bmg that I ever shot weighed 36#'s. If you could hold it up and shoot it off hand, it sure as heck wouldn't knock ys over. Between the suppressor and the weight of the gun, it didn't kick any worse than a .270. And to say to blows up prairie dogs, or deer is pure bs too. The 749 gr. bullets that we shot simply poked holes through the prairie dogs, because the bullet never hit enough mass to make it expand. The 22-250 with ballistic tips do waaaaayyyyy more damage on the little prairie dogs. And if you guys really shot it as much as you say you did, I wonder who could afford all those expensive shells.
Fishy, real fishy!!
This story smells real fishy. The only .50 bmg that I ever shot weighed 36#'s. If you could hold it up and shoot it off hand, it sure as heck wouldn't knock ys over. Between the suppressor and the weight of the gun, it didn't kick any worse than a .270. And to say to blows up prairie dogs, or deer is pure bs too. The 749 gr. bullets that we shot simply poked holes through the prairie dogs, because the bullet never hit enough mass to make it expand. The 22-250 with ballistic tips do waaaaayyyyy more damage on the little prairie dogs. And if you guys really shot it as much as you say you did, I wonder who could afford all those expensive shells.
Fishy, real fishy!!
Fishy is putting it mildly.
12-19-2007, 09:51 AM
#33
Giant Nontypical
Join Date: Mar 2006
Location: ****ifornia
Posts: 5,052
RE: 50 BMG
ORIGINAL: Crittergiter
That's exactly what I was thinking. The last AR-50 I held was in the 46# range and no way in hell could I hold it off hand, that and the fact that curent price of 50 ammo is $5 per round assuming you never missed that would mean for 100 prairie dogs you paid about $500.
Fishy is putting it mildly.
ORIGINAL: Howler
This story smells real fishy. The only .50 bmg that I ever shot weighed 36#'s. If you could hold it up and shoot it off hand, it sure as heck wouldn't knock ys over. Between the suppressor and the weight of the gun, it didn't kick any worse than a .270. And to say to blows up prairie dogs, or deer is pure bs too. The 749 gr. bullets that we shot simply poked holes through the prairie dogs, because the bullet never hit enough mass to make it expand. The 22-250 with ballistic tips do waaaaayyyyy more damage on the little prairie dogs. And if you guys really shot it as much as you say you did, I wonder who could afford all those expensive shells.
Fishy, real fishy!!
This story smells real fishy. The only .50 bmg that I ever shot weighed 36#'s. If you could hold it up and shoot it off hand, it sure as heck wouldn't knock ys over. Between the suppressor and the weight of the gun, it didn't kick any worse than a .270. And to say to blows up prairie dogs, or deer is pure bs too. The 749 gr. bullets that we shot simply poked holes through the prairie dogs, because the bullet never hit enough mass to make it expand. The 22-250 with ballistic tips do waaaaayyyyy more damage on the little prairie dogs. And if you guys really shot it as much as you say you did, I wonder who could afford all those expensive shells.
Fishy, real fishy!!
Fishy is putting it mildly.
12-19-2007, 09:13 PM
#35
Fork Horn
Join Date: Dec 2007
Posts: 204
RE: 50 BMG
ORIGINAL: AmateurHunter44857
So its illegal to shoot someone with the .50 BMG but not a .50 Cal Machine gun ? I'd like to see this in the Geneva Convention. 
P.S. If its illegal then why is the worlds longest kill record set with a .50 BMG in Afghanistan?
ORIGINAL: Retaks
Hurley you are right about a 50 BMG is for aking out vehicles at long ranges. I just got out of the Marine Corps and we were told that we were NOT to shoot any person with a 50 BMG because it is against the law. You cannot shoot them with one becasue it would do too much damage to the person. We are not to shoot to kill we were to shoot to immobilize the threat. If we were found to be shooting to kill a person unless they kept shooting at us after we had shot tehm atleast 2 times we were going to be charged with murder and they did charge 3 people i know of with it.
Hurley you are right about a 50 BMG is for aking out vehicles at long ranges. I just got out of the Marine Corps and we were told that we were NOT to shoot any person with a 50 BMG because it is against the law. You cannot shoot them with one becasue it would do too much damage to the person. We are not to shoot to kill we were to shoot to immobilize the threat. If we were found to be shooting to kill a person unless they kept shooting at us after we had shot tehm atleast 2 times we were going to be charged with murder and they did charge 3 people i know of with it.
P.S. If its illegal then why is the worlds longest kill record set with a .50 BMG in Afghanistan?
12-19-2007, 09:50 PM
#36
Join Date: Dec 2007
Location: Waukesha County, WI
Posts: 58
RE: 50 BMG
So does that mean that they can detain and interview captives however they want? Just curious, I thought that the Geneva Convention applied to all forms of military. Then again, I'm not in the military, so things like these don't usually come across my path everyday. lol
12-20-2007, 03:06 AM
#37
Senior Member
Join Date: Oct 2007
Location: naches, Washington
Posts: 445
RE: 50 BMG
ORIGINAL: AmateurHunter44857
Here is something i found about U.S. Army Snipers "Graduates of the U.S. Army sniper school are expected to achieve 90 percent first-round hits at 600 meters, using the M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS)."
*edit* You thought the .50 BMG was a big round check out these South African Anti-Material Guns, one in 14.5 mm and the other in 20mm!!!!! [:-] http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
Here is something i found about U.S. Army Snipers "Graduates of the U.S. Army sniper school are expected to achieve 90 percent first-round hits at 600 meters, using the M24 Sniper Weapon System (SWS)."
*edit* You thought the .50 BMG was a big round check out these South African Anti-Material Guns, one in 14.5 mm and the other in 20mm!!!!! [:-] http://world.guns.ru/sniper/sn55-e.htm
I weight 155lbs and it was fully automatic.
12-20-2007, 10:46 AM
#38
Join Date: Nov 2006
Location: Norwalk, Ohio
Posts: 4,443
RE: 50 BMG
ORIGINAL: Palladin8
It is in the Geneva Convention that you are not to use the 50BMG on troops. You are supposed to use it on vehicles and equipment. If i'm not mistaken the longest recorded shot was made by a sniper in SOCOM. Special Forces, Seals, and Delta don't have to follow the Geneva convention that's why they can use hollow point ammo as well. They are excluded from it. The regular infantry soldiers and Marines have to abide by the rules of the Geneva Convention.
ORIGINAL: AmateurHunter44857
So its illegal to shoot someone with the .50 BMG but not a .50 Cal Machine gun ? I'd like to see this in the Geneva Convention.
P.S. If its illegal then why is the worlds longest kill record set with a .50 BMG in Afghanistan?
ORIGINAL: Retaks
Hurley you are right about a 50 BMG is for aking out vehicles at long ranges. I just got out of the Marine Corps and we were told that we were NOT to shoot any person with a 50 BMG because it is against the law. You cannot shoot them with one becasue it would do too much damage to the person. We are not to shoot to kill we were to shoot to immobilize the threat. If we were found to be shooting to kill a person unless they kept shooting at us after we had shot tehm atleast 2 times we were going to be charged with murder and they did charge 3 people i know of with it.
Hurley you are right about a 50 BMG is for aking out vehicles at long ranges. I just got out of the Marine Corps and we were told that we were NOT to shoot any person with a 50 BMG because it is against the law. You cannot shoot them with one becasue it would do too much damage to the person. We are not to shoot to kill we were to shoot to immobilize the threat. If we were found to be shooting to kill a person unless they kept shooting at us after we had shot tehm atleast 2 times we were going to be charged with murder and they did charge 3 people i know of with it.
P.S. If its illegal then why is the worlds longest kill record set with a .50 BMG in Afghanistan?
P.S. I've looked through the Hague Convention and it says nothing about calibers." The Contracting Parties agree to abstain from the use of bullets which expand or flatten easily in the human body, such as bullets with a hard envelope which does not entirely cover the core, or is pierced with incisions."
