RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

you've never heard of a shotsehll pellet coming out of the air and killing someone, BECUASE ITCAN'T HAPPEN!! I, and I'm sure many others, have been "rained" on by bird shot pellets while hunting. The worse that little pellet is going to do is put an eye out, because it doesn't carry enough KINETIC energy to do harm.
And by the way, that mushroomed bullet, and maybe just maybe you realize this,that's what it MIGHT look like after striking a target. It does NOT mushroom like that by just being fired from a gun. It will retain it's shape until striking something hard enough to deform the bullet!

Sure a 22lr can be 40gr. just as a .223 may weigh that, BUT there are heavier bullets that can be shot out of the .223, also smaller bullets! Sizes range from about a 30 gr. bullet to 80 gr. bullets!

"i also do agree that it is not a great idea to shoot a .223 or even a 22 up in the ar" Hallelujah!Weagree on something!:D

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

i did not mean just shot shell i meant any caliber from a hunter be it a shotgun or rifle or what ever

you do have to admit most 22s for squirrel is a 40 or smaller not a big round just a cheap 22 long

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

LOL Big Tim and his physics. You keep spitting out fancy words for yourself such as terminal velocity, which is the, well nevermind no hope in explaining, but you havent factored in initial velocity (muzzle velocity). A good .22 lr will put out about 1200 to 1300 fps MV. A .223 is 3000 fps +. thats anywhere from 2.5 to 3 times greater initial velocity. it also depends on which angle the bullet is shot (45 degrees being the farthest shooting bullet compared to all other angles). so YES, a .223 can and will shoot MUCH MUCH MUCH further than a .22 lr.

that being said, both can be deadly if shot in the wrond direction. still another reason for a shotgun, which like howler said, cant kill someone when shot into the air. worst case scenario, it puts out an eye. ive been hit dozens of times by pellets from across the dove field, and all it does is sting and hardly ever even breaks the skin. plus, im willing to bet that pellets cant make it over a few hundred yards with the very light mass of the pellets.

BTW, there is a perfectly functioning spellcheck underreply options. Put it to good use buddy;)

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

fancy words i never said tat a .223 shot at a 45 degree angle would not go any farther then a 22 it will but that does not give it any more danger if i am a half a mile away and you are 5miles away and personx shoots a 22 and a .223 there both just as deadly because they come down with the same speed read the definition is for terminal velocity is i posted it earlier

here it is again
In physics, terminal velocity is the velocity at which the air resistance force of a falling object equals the weight of the object minus the acting force due to air, which halts acceleration and causes speed to remain constant.
it wont matter which hits a person there both traveling at the same speed if there both 40 grain weight or 2.6 grams
the only add danger is it goes farther it is the same with shot or any metal if it weight is the same as a 2.6 gram bullet it is just as deadly but what noon of us knows is a 40 grain bullet deadly sure a 7.62 or 45 cal pistol bullet might but is a 40 grain or 2.6 gram bullet
the only thing the intial velocity as to do with is how far it goes and if there both shoot up in the air on a 90 degree angle it does not matter bt it does if it is a 45 if the go straight up there both going to go the same place becauser when tehy both start to fall tehre going the same speed

i will see if i can find out

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

maybe this Will help it think we are all right this is from myth busters if you fire a bullet up in the air straight up or close to it the bullet will lose its energy and start to fall back down since it losses all its energy it will tumble not spin and fall back down much slower and not be lethal but if it is shot Say like a 45 degree angel any bullet even a 22 it keeps it spins and falls much faster and is deadly no where you get the difference from a 22 and .223 and shotgun is

a 22 wont travel as far away even if fired on a 0 angle then a .223 so if you are farther away

now a shot shell pellet is round it will not spin at all so it will fall much sooner and properly non deadly as you said i was wrong about the shot shell because no bullet fired 90 degrees is lethal

here is the website where it explains the facts
http://mythbustersresults.com/episode50

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

Does anyone remember what the original question was to this post? Maybe we should just start shooting squirrels when they are on the ground.

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

would a crosman 1377 pellet pistol with 600 fps work for squirrel?

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

I was thinking of using my .50 BMG for this tree squirrel problem. Any problems, you think???

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

just shoot straight up lol

RE: Squirrel hunting AR-15
 

terminal velocity doesnt come into play here,thats ONLY when a bullet is fired straight up at a perfect angle.99.99% of the time your going to be shooting at an angle,so with common sense,a 223 at 3000 fps is gonna go alot farther than a 22 at 1280 fps.