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For what it's worth, we called in 6 coyotes on two seperate stands this winter. We also called in 4 coyotes on 3 seperate stands. Inpast years I can think ofone stand that we called7, but several other stands had from 4 to 6 come in. I can tell ya that it's not uncommon to call abunchon a stand during the coldest parts of winter!
The "packs" that we called were probablylitter mates from the earlier summer, along with a parent or two. Not all pups disperse immediately, and as was said, in harshconditions, they very well may stay together and hunt together! Those conditiond do usually mean that small game is harder to hunt and large game is the primary source of food!

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can i respectfully give my info here in pa..i killed about 9 coyotes so far..this year i saw less than i did in last 5 years,dont know why..

i have never saw more than 2 together..usually its male and female, males tracks will be bigger also..

not to say they dont run in big bunchs or packs..everyone of our trappers all say they never see more than 2 together,usually 1 ..

i saw BLACK ONE last week and if my dog would have sat still, he would have been shot..first black one i ever saw, most are blond or silver..

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thats a lot of deer. coyotes suck[:@]

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The same thing here and I am not sure but I believe the mild winter last year made it hard for them to keep the numbers up. My friends son caught another big coyote about 2 and 1/2 weeks ago and the pack turned on it and half ate it. He was only able to shoot 1 out of that pack as they took of. The woods wouldn't allow him to get another shot off. One thing it appears to me if they will half eat one then they must be hungry and the deer are hopefully doing OK still.

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Thats too bad. I would have to agree that it sounds more like wolfs but like you said they are half and half. It sounds more like they are homozigas dominant with the wolf trait though.

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Thats just too bad, I saw a video of a pack of 6 or 7 yotes trying to take down a mulie out west and they came very close but the deer got away luckely(wasen't very much snow, maybe a foot or 2), what ticked me off was that the hunter and guide didn't try to shoot any of them in there own hunting area!

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that happens all time here in pa..many hunters dont want to disturb their deer hunting when yote comes out..in archery i shot a 43 pd blonde yote this year..i had archery hunter come to me and complain i disturbed his archery hunting..he could not believe i would shoot yote in archery season..

i got 9 so far and most were in deer season..9 in 5 years and never saw yote in 46 years in woods..

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That doesn't happen here if a hunter sees a coyote they simply try and shoot it. Some are not very good shots though.

I also think some folks missed what had happened as the coyotes came into this deer yard. The deer here have found that water is the best way to escape the coyotes. This works great for them in the summer. But, in the winter the water is frozen and deer can not run on bare ice. So what had happened is the coyotes came at them from the woods and the deer made a break for it. They went to the water which was frozen and did the splits, this is what kept those deer from getting up and caused their death. Trying to make a break on the ice that would of been water in the summer months. They call the splits they did " hamstringing " the tendons in the groin area rips and then the deer are history after that happens. But the coyotes did in fact cause this to happen.

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As a houndsman you should know what a coyote is capable of on ice. Coyotes escape danger by getting onto ice- be it danger imposed by other coyotes or hounds... neither can get enough traction or stability to fight at full potential. Deer escape to ice the same way,these situationsbetween healthy animals often results in a stailmate.

Sick deer, be they dehydrated, malnurishedor diseased, will also go to water (ice). Illness, malnuirshmentand dehydration are very good explinations for what you've pictured here. Coyote slaughter is a reach- dispite the constant "I HATE COYOTES" slant thrown at this thread.

There is an awful lot of speculation hidden in these posts and cloaked as FACT. The title alone should be changed to "My sickening opinion about.."

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"There is an awful lot of speculation hidden in these posts and cloaked as FACT. The title alone should be changed to "My sickening opinion about..""

Ok, Mr. resident expert, tell all of us dumb coyote hunters all that you know on the subject. Make it 15pages or less.