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Old 10-14-2006 | 04:53 PM
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oh, and remember when I said to locate them first? If you locate them first, and then go back and get as close to them as you can. When you start to call and they start to respond, you already know where they are coming from SO you can shoot them BEFORE they wind you! AND by having the wind in your face, they do not detect you before you start calling or while you are setting up!
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Old 10-14-2006 | 05:48 PM
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In addition to my previous post... what I have seen is that most eastern coyotes will stay just inside the wood edge where they feel safe while approaching the call... I primarily try to sit further inside than where I expect them to come... in hopes to ambush them. Doing this hasdoubled mysightingshere in NY.

Also, one of my favorite places to hunt is overgrown power lines.
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Old 10-14-2006 | 06:20 PM
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right again sullivt, same as me. as I said, everyone has their own tactic on what works. I do believe there is a BIG difference in east-western coyotes. Not only size and territory but how they respond to a call, what type of calls they respond to and the way they use the available terrian. We call more coyotes than we actually see in the east, we don't have the ability to spot them coming in from a mile away. I also think the Easterns are a bit harder to call, could be the over abundance of food sources and maybe the cross breading with the red wolf. Who knows but just watch any hunting video shot out in Texas and compare it with what happens out here. Big difference!

sullivt: how do you play the wind??
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Old 10-14-2006 | 07:36 PM
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I have only seen 2 yotes ever in Pa. I spend alot of time in the woods during the day time.. I can honestly say that 1 of our yotes could kick the hell out of 3 texas yotes in a heart beat...
I wouldn't mind trying yote hunting but it seams difficult to find them..like I said I have only seen 2 of them and they was in deer season when they put deer drives on...
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Old 10-14-2006 | 07:57 PM
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Here in Maine it is not uncommon for them to come out in the fields, but, be ready as they are usually in a dead run. We call them out on the ice in the winter months as they do alot of the deer killing on the ice. Deer will run to water to escape the coyotes but, deer can not run on ice. It is not uncommon to see a coyote or two when traveling day or night here.

Another idea ( if you can bait them ) is to check with a slaughter house to see if you can get some bones to set out in the field. Give a call or two in the evening and wait a day or two. The next time out keep a close eye out as they will be near by. Good Luck
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Old 10-15-2006 | 07:31 AM
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I will always try to use the wind to my advantage... I will always approach my setup from downwind even if I have to walk a mile. I will always try to anticipate where they will come from which will provide some sort of cover for them to feel comfortable to come to a call. I will always sit downwind of my call 50 to 100 yards with the speaker facing me. Since I know that they will come on the downwind side 90% of the time... my goal is to sit downwind further than where I anticipate them coming from. My most productive stands have been on power lines,gravel pits, field edges with some sort of dry creek which provides cover, and ravines with small creeks at the bottom.
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Old 10-15-2006 | 02:26 PM
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so basically, you hunt with the wind in your face. Just as I do.

thanks guys
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Old 10-15-2006 | 03:44 PM
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Big fields are huge advantages if used correctly. Most of my hunting areas are thick brush, which makes scent control very, very important. Coyotes will seldom cross open fields in daylight, so I hunt with the wind at my back and call across the field. That way, if the coyote tries to wind me, he will have to come out into the field. If he does that, I have the advantage and can shoot him before he can wind me.
Advantage: Me.

If the coyote doesn't want to risk coming out in the open, he can come around the field edge. I won't be able to see him from as far off, but he'll still have to come close enoughsee me to find me because he won't be able to smell me. I'm sitting still in camo and he's roaming through the woods, so it's much easier for me to see him than him to see me.
Advantage: Me.
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Old 10-16-2006 | 04:39 PM
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Smokeman... just sharing something I have found out over the years hunting coyotes here in the east... Incase you might want to give it ago sometime. I initially hunted out in less human populated area's with minimal luck... I have determined that the eastern coyote is not that afraid of human interaction... they come right up to peoples houses in my area and eat out of their pets dishes and even their pets.I found I get my best resultshunting close to populated areas where it is easier pickings for them tofind food... Itry to setup on travel areas where they may feel secure coming and going... hencepowerlines, railroad tracks, gravel pits, ravines, dry ditches, etc.
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Old 10-16-2006 | 06:09 PM
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what type of calls they respond to
I'd be willing to bet that the eastern coyote will come to any and every call that the western coyote will! The coyote doesn't sit there and desipher what sound he is hearing and he doesn't come only if he recognizes the sound. The coyote only hears a distress as exactly that, something that is distressed that could be a meal. The coyote doesn't have the logic to come only to a callwhen he knows what the sound is!!
We have used wood pecker distress where there were no trees, for example. No trees, and no woodpeckers! We have used pig distress, where there were no pigs!
True, some calls will work better than others. Heck, even between two guys that use the same call, one may LOVE it and have a lot of success with it, where as the other guy may hate it because it seems to "never" work for him. Go figure. Is the call to blame, or is it the caller! All this in the same topography!
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