Reverse engineering Remington Managed Recoil loads
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Fork Horn
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How would you go about reverse engineering a factory load? My son likes shooting the managed recoil loads and I would like to be able to duplicate them. Would I look up the ballistics/trajectory of the factory load and then check the powder/bullet weight formulas to find a close match?
Any help will be appreciated.
Any help will be appreciated.
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Typical Buck
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Kelbro, That seems like it would work. Looking at Remington's Managed Recoil loads, they are loading "light" for caliber bullets in the 270 Win and 30-06 and their velocities are alot lower than they can actually be driven. So in choosing a lighter bullet weight and using less powder in a particular load you can reduce recoil dramatically. I would pay close attention on what bullet you load though, the premiums such as the Barnes X and various bonded cores wouldnt work well at reduced speeds.
Good luck...doubleA
Good luck...doubleA
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Nontypical Buck
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From: NW Ohio , 5 min from Ottawa National / Magee Marsh
I am lookin this same thing up for a friend . In my Lyman manual it lists for the 125 gr bullet (Rem load 125 gr bullet at 2660 fps) in Win. case & Win. LR primer
RX7 38.5 gr 2700 fps 38500 CUP - 43.0 gr
IMR-3031 45.0 gr 2730 fps 33000 CUP - 50.0
748 51.5 gr 2890 fps 35300 CUP - 58.0
H-335 45.3 gr 2800 fps 37400 CUP - 51.5
BL-C(2) 49.0 gr 2890 fps 35000 CUP - 54.0
IMR-4064 48.0 gr 2760 fps 31500 CUP - 55.0
IMR-4895 47.8 gr 2815 fps 36500 CUP - 53.5
IMR-4320 49.0 gr 2770 fps 36000 CUP - 55.0
H-380 51.0 gr 2967 fps 39000 CUP - 56.5
760 56.3 gr 2800 fps 34200 CUP - 63.0
IMR-4350 55.0 gr 2750 fps 34000 CUP - 61.0
H-450 56.8 gr 2670 fps 34300 CUP - 64.5
H-4831 55.0 gr 2550 fps 30000 CUP - 61.5
I have some 3031 so we are going to try the lowest load for his son.
The litest loads should not be reduced .
Hope this data helps you .
I am not used to trying to get slow loads !
RX7 38.5 gr 2700 fps 38500 CUP - 43.0 gr
IMR-3031 45.0 gr 2730 fps 33000 CUP - 50.0
748 51.5 gr 2890 fps 35300 CUP - 58.0
H-335 45.3 gr 2800 fps 37400 CUP - 51.5
BL-C(2) 49.0 gr 2890 fps 35000 CUP - 54.0
IMR-4064 48.0 gr 2760 fps 31500 CUP - 55.0
IMR-4895 47.8 gr 2815 fps 36500 CUP - 53.5
IMR-4320 49.0 gr 2770 fps 36000 CUP - 55.0
H-380 51.0 gr 2967 fps 39000 CUP - 56.5
760 56.3 gr 2800 fps 34200 CUP - 63.0
IMR-4350 55.0 gr 2750 fps 34000 CUP - 61.0
H-450 56.8 gr 2670 fps 34300 CUP - 64.5
H-4831 55.0 gr 2550 fps 30000 CUP - 61.5
I have some 3031 so we are going to try the lowest load for his son.
The litest loads should not be reduced .
Hope this data helps you .
I am not used to trying to get slow loads !
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Fork Horn
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Thanks for the info. I am brand new to reloading so you might have to speak a little slower LOL.
"H-4831 55.0 gr 2550 fps 30000 CUP - 61.5 "
Translation please!
I know that H-4831 is a powder.
I guess that 55.0 gr is the powder measure.
2550 fps is velocity.
What's 30000 CUP and the 61.5?
Thanks.
"H-4831 55.0 gr 2550 fps 30000 CUP - 61.5 "
Translation please!
I know that H-4831 is a powder.
I guess that 55.0 gr is the powder measure.
2550 fps is velocity.
What's 30000 CUP and the 61.5?
Thanks.
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Check out some different reloading manuals. Most list reduced loads for .30-06. My Speer book lists reduced loads for 130 - 165 grain bullets. I know that Hodgdon and winchester also give reduced loads.
Good luck
Good luck
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Nontypical Buck
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From: A flat lander lost in the mountains of Northern,AZ
go to this link http://www.hodgdon.com/data/youth/index.php hodgdon has a list of several loads for various calibers which are recoil managed loads using H4895 powder. hodgdon says you can reduce loads as much as 60% from maximum with H4895.
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As mentioned above, be very careful NOT TO REDUCE LOADS OF SLOW BURNING POWDER This can be extremely dangerous. Much worse than an overload in most cases. I would not reduce 4320 or anything slower than that. I about ruined a good gun with reduced loads of 4320. in a 30-06.


