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Old 01-28-2010 | 05:35 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcountry
I don't think so. They don't give out data just because they want to be your blood brother in reloading. They do it, to sell powder. They do it, to get folks to look at thier powder first.

Here's some good advise to newbies. "ain't nothing free in this world" You can live by that.

what your saying is directions to putting a grill together is free, no, its an important part of the product as a whole. Sure, I can go thru experimentation and playing around putting parts where they look like they should go, but thats not acceptable.

I am not sure how some of your guys are missing it, and its been explained clearly. They have data for a variety of both cup and core and solid shank bullets but refuse to give it now to push sale of thier sister companies bullets.
Not missin a thing. Been doin it long enough to know how to use the information available and certainly long before there were a bunch of geniuses on the internet telling me how.
Anyone who has used an Accurate Arms loading book can see that even if they don't use their 'sister' company bullets exclusively they are very bias in what they do use.
I expect that in time it will be more the norm with Hodgdon, AA and any other powder company that buys there way into a bullet manufacturer.
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:20 AM
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does any one have, or is it even possible, a load for a 7-08 using rl22
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:41 AM
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Originally Posted by skb2706
Not missin a thing. Been doin it long enough to know how to use the information available and certainly long before there were a bunch of geniuses on the internet telling me how.
Anyone who has used an Accurate Arms loading book can see that even if they don't use their 'sister' company bullets exclusively they are very bias in what they do use.
I expect that in time it will be more the norm with Hodgdon, AA and any other powder company that buys there way into a bullet manufacturer.
If you believe that its free, then nope, you missed everything that is intuitively obvious to anyone who does reload.

Nothing is free in this world. One day you might learn that.
 
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:44 AM
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You know guys, I just don't get why there are some on these forums who oppose simple conversation.

I mean to those who are critical of every statement, what is wrong with pointing out the ludicrous practices of companies? Whats so wrong with talking about it?
 
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:45 AM
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Its called whining. One day you might learn that.
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:52 AM
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Its called whining. One day you might learn that.
This is exactly what I am talking about. You sit here on these forums and just wait to take swipes at people. I mean it would be so odd for a guy like you to just say, "yea it doens't make sense, but its just the way it is."

Whats wrong with just a forum just discussing it without the flip attitudes?

And if your not interested, why even comment?
 
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Old 01-28-2010 | 06:59 AM
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Originally Posted by bigcountry
This is exactly what I am talking about. You sit here on these forums and just wait to take swipes at people. I mean it would be so odd for a guy like you to just say, "yea it doens't make sense, but its just the way it is."

Whats wrong with just a forum just discussing it without the flip attitudes?

And if your not interested, why even comment?
To you its only a simple conversation if others agree. I do not. Nothing flippant about it. Its just a fact.
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Old 01-28-2010 | 07:03 AM
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Originally Posted by skb2706
To you its only a simple conversation if others agree. I do not. Nothing flippant about it. Its just a fact.
Ok, then why even comment if it doesn't interest you. Do you know what the definition of flippency is? Dismissive.
 
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Old 01-28-2010 | 07:09 AM
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Originally Posted by zrexpilot
does any one have, or is it even possible, a load for a 7-08 using rl22
Its possible, but I would bet poor performance. Here's why. RL22 loves to run hot. Never seen a powder perform better at max pressures. In 7mm-08, it will be worse than 4350 for compression and I love that load. And you will never reach 55K CUP or 60KPSI. You will run out of room with 48gr of RL22 and it will be slow as crap.

I have never tried it. But this is just observations on experience trying slow powder in limited capacity cases like this.
 
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Old 01-28-2010 | 09:22 AM
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Anyway, I have a pdf file with older data from Alliant. If anyone wants it I can email it to ya. Just pM me.
 
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