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Rifle Loony 07-09-2008 04:01 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 
The African Dik Dik.....

Scientific Name: Madoqua kirkii
Size: 14 to 16 inches at the shoulder
Weight: 10 to 12 pounds
Lifespan: 3 to 4 years, 10 years in captivity
Habitat: Dense forest to open plains
Diet: Herbivorous
Gestation: 6 months
Predators: Humans, many small carnivores

Poppin' one in the grassbag with a full house 7 mag 160 X at 55 yards ain't much more than splittin' a woodchuck in half....

You'd think at least a PH would know that and advise against it.........

bigcountry 07-09-2008 04:11 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 

ORIGINAL: SJAdventures

Why would an Africa PH who could give a crapone way or the otherBS aboutone particular bullet? He is just stating he isn't a fna of the Barnes triple shock because of the reason he gives and shows. I guarantee you the pictures are true whether y'all want to believe it or not. I could care less myself just posting information on a subject.
SJ, I sure am not saying your lying, but all I can tell you, is I have never experienced or seen anythinglike your PH is saying with the TSX 140gr out of a 7mm remmag. I mean if you experienced on thing but heard another, what would you think?

SJAdventures 07-09-2008 04:25 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 

ORIGINAL: bigcountry


ORIGINAL: SJAdventures

Why would an Africa PH who could give a crapone way or the otherBS aboutone particular bullet? He is just stating he isn't a fna of the Barnes triple shock because of the reason he gives and shows. I guarantee you the pictures are true whether y'all want to believe it or not. I could care less myself just posting information on a subject.
SJ, I sure am not saying your lying, but all I can tell you, is I have never experienced or seen anythinglike your PH is saying with the TSX 140gr out of a 7mm remmag. I mean if you experienced on thing but heard another, what would you think?
No problem BC, I didn't take any of the posts to refer thatI was lying. and I undertsnad what your saying about not experiancing it yourself but we also know that things do happen even when we haven't experianced it ourselves. I know the PH and he is a 5 star Tanzanian PH and there is no doubt that the pictures arelegit and what he says hehas experianced islegit even though I personally haven't seen what the pictures show. this PH has witness impacts on more big calibers than any of us will in our lifetime.

"The African Dik Dik.....
Scientific Name: Madoqua kirkii
Size: 14 to 16 inches at the shoulder
Weight: 10 to 12 pounds
Lifespan: 3 to 4 years, 10 years in captivity
Habitat: Dense forest to open plains
Diet: Herbivorous
Gestation: 6 months
Predators: Humans, many small carnivores

Poppin' one in the grassbag with a full house 7 mag 160 X at 55 yards ain't much more than splittin' a woodchuck in half....

You'd think at least a PH would know that and advise against it......... "

As for your post Looney, I am not sure what the biology lesson was all about butthis PHalways advises his hunters all the timefor and against certain choices of calibers for certain species of game but hesays that so many bucket head wannabeballistic experts can't beadvised about anything because they already know everything and when they are paying $40,000+ for a safari they use what gun they want to regardless of what the PH thinks.

Rifle Loony 07-09-2008 09:02 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 
Was actually supporting your photographic evidence of a Dikdik blown in half....sorry you missed that.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what a high velocity 160 X is going to do to a 10 pound critter at 55 yards shot in the guts.............

I concure that there are a lot of experts out there who can't be told a thing and that be a key part of the problem regarding ballistics, and cape saving shot placement...I'd figure.

I can tell you one thing, a 168 TSX at 2860out of a 30-06 is a meat wrecker on northern whitetails, and thus I've gone to a smaller caliber as a result. Win/win, and the '06 is happy with just bear duty.......

SJAdventures 07-10-2008 09:47 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 

ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony

Was actually supporting your photographic evidence of a Dikdik blown in half....sorry you missed that.

Doesn't take a rocket scientist to know what a high velocity 160 X is going to do to a 10 pound critter at 55 yards shot in the guts.............

I concure that there are a lot of experts out there who can't be told a thing and that be a key part of the problem regarding ballistics, and cape saving shot placement...I'd figure.

I can tell you one thing, a 168 TSX at 2860out of a 30-06 is a meat wrecker on northern whitetails, and thus I've gone to a smaller caliber as a result. Win/win, and the '06 is happy with just bear duty.......
I did miss that. I apologize for that. He says he tries and tries to advise clients on calibers vs species, terrain and length of shotsbut many will not listen.

Solitary Man 07-11-2008 08:27 AM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 
My own experience with the TSX on deer has been nothing like that. I've used the 140 in the 7mm mag and the 168 in a .300 Wby.In the 3 or 4 times I've used them I've gotten dime sized entrance holes and half dollar to dollar sized exits. These were all at relatively close range.

BarnesX.308 07-11-2008 09:35 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 
If I have a 300lb B&C whitetail give me a crack at him this season, I would welcome that performance.

We've been using Barnes X bullets EXCLUSIVELY at our camp for the last 11 years. We started with the X, the XLC and are now all on the TSX. The rifles are .308 Win, .30-06, 7mm Mag, 300Win and 300Wby Mag. We must have downed 100 deerfrom 80lb doe to a nearly 300lb buck and bullet performance was flawless. All deer either dropped in their tracks or stumbled a few feet and fell.

A buddy shot a buck (maybe 170lbs) through both shoulders with his 300WM and a 150X bullet.ML was around 3300fps and the deer was about 40 yards broadside. The entrance hole was about caliber size and the exit about an inch and a half - at most. However, when we skinned it, we saw that it was pretty much pulverized. Both shoulders were comletely destroyed. The lungs were liquified. Did this deer die quickly? Yep :D

SJAdventures 07-12-2008 07:33 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 
I personally always wanted to try them in my rifles but have heard horror stories about how bad they copper foul a barrel. Scirocco II's were bad enough for me.

bigcountry 07-12-2008 07:56 PM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 

ORIGINAL: SJAdventures

I personally always wanted to try them in my rifles but have heard horror stories about how bad they copper foul a barrel. Scirocco II's were bad enough for me.
I can guarantee you TSX will not foul a barrel near like a scirocco or a TBBC. In fact, it fouls about as much as a typical partition.

falcon 07-13-2008 08:36 AM

RE: Reloading Questions for 300 WM
 

?(I think 3031 not sure), RL 22 and IMR 4064.

IMR 3031 and IMR 4064 are too fast for the .300 Win. Mag.


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