Major Snag!
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RE: Major Snag!
I always suggest reloaders invest in a head and shoulder gauge. Measuring the shoulders of fireformed brass compared to what your die is doing is invalable to me. If I find a sizer is pushing the shoulders too much, I will call RCBS for replacment or have my headspaced checked. I have modified sizers too, to match a gun.
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RE: Major Snag!
I always suggest reloaders invest in a magic marker, and then properly adjust their sizer die....
Can't imagine charging and seating without first making,inspecting, and chambering a dummy round to verify all is well....which it seems, is the way it didn't happen here. To create the bulges on these .243 win cases as a result of the sizer die being out of adjustmentwould likely have produced an out of norm effort with the press and that should have beenthe firstsign that something was wrong. This issue should have been recognized andresolved long before the first live round was even made. A visual of the very first sizing attempt, at the very least,would have showed the problem...
Personally I've never reloaded new or once fired brass without first checking fordiscrepencies in case length, if that is actually the culprit here in tandom with a die set too far down. I ALWAYS trim everything to a consistent length as part of initial case prep. I guess there's folks out there who don'tthink that's important.
Never saw an RCBS FL die that didn't take max length brass, 'course I don't set up with a cam over either.....
Can't imagine charging and seating without first making,inspecting, and chambering a dummy round to verify all is well....which it seems, is the way it didn't happen here. To create the bulges on these .243 win cases as a result of the sizer die being out of adjustmentwould likely have produced an out of norm effort with the press and that should have beenthe firstsign that something was wrong. This issue should have been recognized andresolved long before the first live round was even made. A visual of the very first sizing attempt, at the very least,would have showed the problem...
Personally I've never reloaded new or once fired brass without first checking fordiscrepencies in case length, if that is actually the culprit here in tandom with a die set too far down. I ALWAYS trim everything to a consistent length as part of initial case prep. I guess there's folks out there who don'tthink that's important.
Never saw an RCBS FL die that didn't take max length brass, 'course I don't set up with a cam over either.....
#13
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RE: Major Snag!
Partial full length sizing can and will cause excessive neck runout. Even with squaring dies.I have showed many people whodo too much reading from people like John Barsness. I much prefer to actually size straight ammo.
The culprit is usually draggin the expander ball back thru. I find excessive neck runout even if you raise the expander ball all the way up to be dragged while the die is supporting the case. Also have tried it John Barsness way of pushing the expander ball thru after sizing. All help some and is ok in my opinion of typical hunting ammo.
This is the benefit of collet dies and redding competition bushing neck sizing dies.
The culprit is usually draggin the expander ball back thru. I find excessive neck runout even if you raise the expander ball all the way up to be dragged while the die is supporting the case. Also have tried it John Barsness way of pushing the expander ball thru after sizing. All help some and is ok in my opinion of typical hunting ammo.
This is the benefit of collet dies and redding competition bushing neck sizing dies.
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RE: Major Snag!
Can't imagine charging and seating without first making,inspecting, and chambering a dummy round to verify all is well....which it seems, is the way it didn't happen here.
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RE: Major Snag!
Is it possible that the expander ball is not adjusted in the die properly? IIRC on the RCBS die the tip of the de-priming pin should be 3/16th below the bottom of the die. This sets the EB to the right position.
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RE: Major Snag!
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RE: Major Snag!
ORIGINAL: Rifle Loony
Don't speak your foreign language,
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Ah yes, the "snotty post police" don't miss a beat.....
Get a life Briman...........
Ah yes, the "snotty post police" don't miss a beat.....
Get a life Briman...........