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Old 11-14-2007, 12:15 PM
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My dad and I are reloading shells for my 30-06..we talked to my cousin about the best load and he did some looking around and we came up with a 168 grain sierra bullet, 4350 hogden powder and cci primers..anybody ever use something like this or what do you guysl load in your 30-06..the 168 seem to fly nearly as fast as a 130 grain and this will have more energy..just wondering what you all think
Sierra will tell you that their .308", 168-grain bullet is a target bullet (Match King) and is NOT designd to use on game. Instead, they will direct you to the 165-grain PSPBT or HPBT Game King bullets. Ballistically, these perform the same as the 168-grain up until they hit the game. Then they behave the way a game bullet is supposed to perform.

This is not to say that the 168-grain bullet won't kill a deer. But it may not prove as good in this regard as ones that are intended to do so. (IMO, 130's are coyote bullets!!)
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Old 11-14-2007, 12:20 PM
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59 grs. of reloader 22 with a 180 gr. bullet.
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Old 11-18-2007, 03:58 PM
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I use 56.4 grains of IMR 4350 behind a Hornady 165 grain boattail. It's very accurate out of my Rem. MDL 700. It opened a 2 inch hole on the exit side of a mulie I shot last Friday. The Sierra 168 grain hollow point is a match bullet. It's not meant for hunting. I've had this same discussion with someone else I personally know a few years back. I've hit jackrabbits out to 100 yards sitting and running with this load. I started likeing this brand bullet when I saw how well it performed on a bull elk.
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Old 11-27-2007, 09:19 AM
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ive had really good luck with the nosler ballistic tip 125gr. imr 4320/53.5gr will get you 3100fps and they are pretty accurate.
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Old 12-04-2007, 05:54 PM
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well a lot of you say the 168 grain sierra isn't for game, but why is it a hollow point then. if it's just for target wouldn't it be a solid tip or balistic tip? maybe i'm wrong. i did make one shot on a doe this year with this load and it worked just like any other hollow point i've used. it blew everything up inside and dropped the deer within 20 yards...i'm going to try a 165 gr and 130 grain this winter..we also loaded the 168 grains for dad's 300 win mag and he shot 2 does and a buck with them and they all ran about 30 yards..the expansion upon impact seemed like what it should be..
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Old 12-05-2007, 10:37 AM
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"well a lot of you say the 168 grain sierra isn't for game, but why is it a hollow point then."

The hollow point is as a result of the manufacturing process.
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Old 12-05-2007, 04:19 PM
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I know several hunter's who use that bullet for deer. It may not be designed for hunting, but it is devastating on deer. The standard Game King is also a great bullet. In my Encore 30-06 I use a 165 grain Ballistic Tip. These bullet's in my Encore shoot slightly tighter in my Encore-over the Sierra's. Not really enough to matter, but I had a friend who gave me 1,000 BallisticTip's.

I shoot the 155 grain Palma in my 300 WSM. It is also a devastating bullet on deer.

I have been loading for a 30-06 for over thirty years. I have tried a lot of powder's. Mostly IMR's. 3031, 4895, 4831, 4350, and 4064. I got great performance with all these powder's. I switched last year to RL22. I picked up about 150 fps with RL22.

RL22 is the only powder that has allowed me to go over 3,000 fps with a 165 grain bullet, and a short barrel(18-1/2 and a 22 inch). Tom.
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Old 12-05-2007, 11:36 PM
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3000 fps with a 165 gr from a 22 inch tube is smokin! I hunt with a guy who swears by the Sierra Match 150 grains in his 7-08.
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Old 12-06-2007, 08:00 AM
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I have two Remington Gamemasters that are sighted in for 165 gr Sierra's.

I have used them with good results on whitetail deer in Pennsylvania - out to a range of 150 yards.

I felt that there was a compeditive advantage to using a 165 gr bullet over a 150 gr bullet. But I am probably wrong. The truth is that 15 gr's of weight is not all that much and that the added expense really doesn't justify the cost.

The performance level of the 180 gr bullets is even better, but I would only consider using them for Bears and not for deer due to the fact that there is more recoil and less range with the 180 compared to the 150 gr load.

You also have to remember that Hodgkins powder does not interchange with IMR. The Hodgkins powder is much more powerful and could cause damage to your firearm if you try to load it too hot.

Everyone has made a good point about not using a target bullet for hunting purposes and they are right. Just because you got lucky a couple of times and actually killed a deer with target bullets -does not mean that they were designed for hunting purposes or that they are the best choice for what you want to do.

I would give you my reloading information in private - if you wanted to try it. But I would not publish in on the internet for anyone and their brother to read - due to liability issues.
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Old 12-06-2007, 01:47 PM
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The 168 grain Match King bullet is not designed for hunting. It is a Match bullet. It will probably not expand correctly when used on deer. The hollow point is for ease of manufacture. For severaldecades i have used the 150 grain Game Kingand Pro Hunter bullets to good effect on hogs and deer. There is a 165 grain hollowpoint Game King bullet but i have no experience with it.
That Sierra 165-grain hollow point boattail is a very tough and effective bullet! It is also as accurate as the 168-grain Match Kings. At least in the gun I used them in (an M70FTW in .308). WEith 51 grains of H380 it had a MV of 2800 FPS. Never did find one still inside a deer shot with it-complete pass-thrus!
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