Congrats. Sounds like you had another great muzzleloading season with the Savage.I got back from Iraq in ealry September, spent a week or so with the family, then packed them up and went the outerbanks (ahh, real sand) for a week of surf fishing, R&R,and a few adult beverages. Then got back from that just in time to sighta couple fo theSavages in and head back east for the eastern muzzleloading season. I got three at 50, 60, and 140.

Yep the savage has a faster twist for sure. Have you taken a good close look at the rifling of the Remington. Is it real sharp and/or rough? I think the Remington barrels are hammer forged, were as the Savage are button cut. So theoretically the Savage barrel shoudl be a tad shraper and rougher than the Remington. If the barrels are stainless, you could have fine razor edges on the rifling, thta could be shredding the jackets a tad too much.

I would also mic the bore to see if the lands and grooves are what they are supposed to be. I would also take a real linty loose fitting patch and run down the bore to see if any of the lint will hang up on any burr. Then I would run a tight patch down the bore feeling for nay loose spot.

The rem is a blue barrel,I took and cleaned it very good with 50BMG,and surprized there was very faint copper signs because I had shot several rounds through it.Then ran some plain cotten through it and with a bore light I couldn't see any sign of cotten left in the barrel,then ran a toght patch but couldn't feel anything.Don't have a bore scope but with my necked eye the barrel looked really smooth.
The first thing I do with any new rifle is to clean it good with 200 strokes of JB's cleaner.Have done this for several years now and not worried about breaking in a barrel.
My buddie was watching me shoot at 25 yds and he said he didn't see anything,but will get him to pay special attention when I try it again next week.I think it is going to be exciting to see how the v-max reacts to slowing it down to the mim. fps.If that don't satisfy my cursioty I will probaby chalk it up to I don't know and move on.

To make both guns shoot better with very little vel. loose go to 52 or 53 gr. bullets either hornady or sierra and will almost Garnette accuracy improvement in both rifles need a little longer bullet to stabilize

Thanks but I have several bullets and loads that shoot great in both rifles including the 52 and 53 gr.Just trying to figure out what is happening in the rem with the 40 gr v-max.

Well, like I said, vaporizing bullets were quite common back in the 1930's when guys like Harvey Donaldson and Townsend Whelen were designing new .22-caliber varmint cartridges. A dead giveaway is molten lead sprayed on the target paper from melted bullet cores.I've had this happen to me with a Hornady 87-grain at 3750 from a 6mm/.284. Changed to an 85-gr. Sierra HPBTand it stopped.I would think that bullets made today would be designed to prevent this, but maybe not! I know SOME of the lighter bullets are intended for lower velocity cartridges like the .218 Bee & the Hornet. What is the max velocity that those bullets are rated for by the manufacurer??

Well got to the range this morning and after getting set up I realized that I had forgotten the rem 22/250,was really disappointed but the range is 25 miles from my house so I didn't want to go back and get it will have to wait untill next week before I can try the low veliocity loads.
Had a good morning at the range anyway though,someone had let some of the see-um targets so I shot some of those.Got a pic below of some of the groups I got this morning.The bottom right is the 40 gr v-max out of the savage with the 1;12 twist and I got avg of 3 shots at 4196fps
Shot some good tght groups with the 223 savage and the sierra 69 gr match bullet and different powders.The smallest was .244 and the largest was.494
My buddie shot the groups with the 223 one group he shot with his rifle and the other with mine.
The 10 shot group was the one I liked think its pretty good for an old man,just had to pull one to the left for some reason.If I measure from the longest point I get 1.267-.308=.959,think that should be a good deer load.Will try to remember the remington next week.

Didn't forget the rem this morning.Have come to the conclusion that this rifle just hates the hornady a-max and v-max.
I shot three of the down loader 40 gr v-max at 25 yds avg fps was 3332.(31.8gr of 2460)they didn't keyhole or leave lead marks but the holes looked like I had shot them with a 308 bullet.Wasn't enough pressure because the cases were sooty all over.
Next shot 2 of the higher load(36grs of 2460)only shot 2 because both of them keyholed.3837fps.
Next shot the 40 gr v-max 3-shots theywere all over the paper (this is at 25 yds)one was even in the next target over to the left about 2 ft.they weren't all the way keyholed but the holes were very large in size.
Next tried 2 with H380 and 52 gr a-maxes,both were keyholed about 7 inches apart.
Decided to shoot a 3 shot group with the 40 gr BT and 34.5 grs of 10x it shot a .351 in group at 100 yds.
Let my buddie shoot it and he shot a 4 shot group with his load with the sierra 53 gr match that went less than an inch.at 100 yds.
What we think is happening is that there is a sharp edge on one of the rifling or a burr that we cannot see with the naked eye that is cutting the jacket on the hornady starting it to come apart down the barrel????
Going to lapp the barrel with some jb again and see if that helps.
Have ruled out speed with this bullet because have shot it in my savage at 4200 + with no problem,Rpm's the rem is 1;14 the savage is 1;12 so the rem should be turning the bullet slower that the savage.