Black Bear Loads
03-08-2006 | 01:31 PM
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Black Bear Loads
I am going on a black bear hunt this spring. The hunt will be a week-long guided adventure via boat in Prince William Sound, Alaska. I have never hunted black bears before, so I am pretty excited about it.
I have a Remington 700 that was rebarreled in .338-06 several years ago, and I have worked up several loads for this rifle using 200gr Balistic Tips and 250gr Grand Slams. Both loads will group under an inch at 200 yards. I am also planning to work up a load using Nosler's 225 grain Accubond bullet. Of the three .338 caliber bullets I've chosen, I think the the two heavier bullets would be a better choice for black bear.
But I am curious, does anyone have experience using the .338cal. 200 BT's on large game? Do they hold together well, or are they rather explosive like many of the smaller caliber Balistic Tips?
Second Question:
I have a 30-06 that I am planning to take along as a back-up gun. In the past, my 30-06 has been used for deer hunting with 165gr bullets, so I would like to work up some bear loads using 180-200gr bullets. I am thinking about trying the Barnes 180gr X-Bullet and the Nosler 200gr Accubond. Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
I have a Remington 700 that was rebarreled in .338-06 several years ago, and I have worked up several loads for this rifle using 200gr Balistic Tips and 250gr Grand Slams. Both loads will group under an inch at 200 yards. I am also planning to work up a load using Nosler's 225 grain Accubond bullet. Of the three .338 caliber bullets I've chosen, I think the the two heavier bullets would be a better choice for black bear.
But I am curious, does anyone have experience using the .338cal. 200 BT's on large game? Do they hold together well, or are they rather explosive like many of the smaller caliber Balistic Tips?
Second Question:
I have a 30-06 that I am planning to take along as a back-up gun. In the past, my 30-06 has been used for deer hunting with 165gr bullets, so I would like to work up some bear loads using 180-200gr bullets. I am thinking about trying the Barnes 180gr X-Bullet and the Nosler 200gr Accubond. Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
03-13-2006 | 08:09 PM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
You mean you aint gonna use a magnum! Some a" these guys think you shouldn't shoot a barn rat without a 300 xmx(er) something, ha-ha! But laying all jokes aside , most of the bonded bullets, barns, failsafes and nosler partitions, should work great. Just don't use light for caliber bullets in what ever you choose.
03-14-2006 | 09:50 AM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
ORIGINAL: Dan in Alaska
Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
03-14-2006 | 03:42 PM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
There are a lot of good bullets for bear hunting with these calibers: Speer Grand Slam, Trophy Bonded, Partitions, Accubonds, Sciroccos, Swift A-Frames, and Barnes X - probably forgot a few others. Ballistic Tips and Gamekings, however,would be at the bottom of my list for this application.
03-15-2006 | 08:02 AM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
If i was you, i'd work up one load for each gun and stick with it! Doing so will let you learn where that gun/load shoots and you will be a better game shot with it.
For Alaska, in my .338-06 i settled on 250 Nosler pattitions, and in my 30-06's, my one load for everything is the 200 Nosler partition. The .338/250 Gran Slams i used broke up on heavy bone, and for me that's unaceptable so i quit them. Perhaps they are better these days, but i have no reason to experiment with them (again) as the NP's are the finest all around bullet ever devised!!!
I used these guns and loads all over Alaska includeing Prince William Sound, (includeing for bear) and that's what i'd use today too.
Drilling Man
For Alaska, in my .338-06 i settled on 250 Nosler pattitions, and in my 30-06's, my one load for everything is the 200 Nosler partition. The .338/250 Gran Slams i used broke up on heavy bone, and for me that's unaceptable so i quit them. Perhaps they are better these days, but i have no reason to experiment with them (again) as the NP's are the finest all around bullet ever devised!!!
I used these guns and loads all over Alaska includeing Prince William Sound, (includeing for bear) and that's what i'd use today too.
Drilling Man
03-28-2006 | 01:35 PM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
I agree. The Partition just works. Best bullet design out there. There are some other good choices but if my gun shoots Partitions, thats probably what I will be using. I think the Accubond would be m,y next choice, I just have not used them yet.
03-28-2006 | 08:53 PM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
For Alaska I'd stay with the 250 gr grand slams, plenty of bullet for whatever you may come across. Talking to a gent at the range the other day who was shootinga 225 gr ballistic tips from his 35 whelen, when I asked about performance he said he used this load on a moose hunt. Recovered the bullet in the shoulder on the far side of a quartering away shot at 150 yds, recovered bullet weighed 165 gr. He was sure to point out that the wound channel was just utter devastation.
03-29-2006 | 05:31 AM
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RE: Black Bear Loads
ORIGINAL: Dan in Alaska
I am going on a black bear hunt this spring. The hunt will be a week-long guided adventure via boat in Prince William Sound, Alaska. I have never hunted black bears before, so I am pretty excited about it.
I have a Remington 700 that was rebarreled in .338-06 several years ago, and I have worked up several loads for this rifle using 200gr Balistic Tips and 250gr Grand Slams. Both loads will group under an inch at 200 yards. I am also planning to work up a load using Nosler's 225 grain Accubond bullet. Of the three .338 caliber bullets I've chosen, I think the the two heavier bullets would be a better choice for black bear.
But I am curious, does anyone have experience using the .338cal. 200 BT's on large game? Do they hold together well, or are they rather explosive like many of the smaller caliber Balistic Tips?
Second Question:
I have a 30-06 that I am planning to take along as a back-up gun. In the past, my 30-06 has been used for deer hunting with 165gr bullets, so I would like to work up some bear loads using 180-200gr bullets. I am thinking about trying the Barnes 180gr X-Bullet and the Nosler 200gr Accubond. Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
I am going on a black bear hunt this spring. The hunt will be a week-long guided adventure via boat in Prince William Sound, Alaska. I have never hunted black bears before, so I am pretty excited about it.
I have a Remington 700 that was rebarreled in .338-06 several years ago, and I have worked up several loads for this rifle using 200gr Balistic Tips and 250gr Grand Slams. Both loads will group under an inch at 200 yards. I am also planning to work up a load using Nosler's 225 grain Accubond bullet. Of the three .338 caliber bullets I've chosen, I think the the two heavier bullets would be a better choice for black bear.
But I am curious, does anyone have experience using the .338cal. 200 BT's on large game? Do they hold together well, or are they rather explosive like many of the smaller caliber Balistic Tips?
Second Question:
I have a 30-06 that I am planning to take along as a back-up gun. In the past, my 30-06 has been used for deer hunting with 165gr bullets, so I would like to work up some bear loads using 180-200gr bullets. I am thinking about trying the Barnes 180gr X-Bullet and the Nosler 200gr Accubond. Does anyone have any good 30-06 loads using these bullets? Any other .30 caliber bullets/loads you'd recommend for black bear?
Thanks,
Dan
When I lived in Fairbanks, there was a local doctor's wife there who used her .270 and the 150-grain Nosler Partition bullet to kill large polar bears! (This was before the Endangered Species Act.)