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Old 11-07-2005 | 04:37 PM
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Many deer are harvested down here ,especially around bean fields from stands, with the 22/250. I am presently working on loads for a Winchester 64 grain power point and a 70 grain Speer semi-spitzer. I am using H 4350 and IMR 4064. Anyone out ther use the 22/250 and one of the bullets? Or do you have another good deer bullet for it.
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Old 11-07-2005 | 05:03 PM
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blob I recommend you go over too the Texas Trophy Hunters Association website and check into their .224 TTH info. I was very excited about one of these rifles a few years ago (still am, who knows if my 22/250 proves to do what I think it will do then I will more than likely have a TTH built in a year or two.) and have read alot about their various tests with .22 cal bullets on deer. They speak highly of the 64 grain powerpoint and the 70 grain Speer. Even over the 53 grain Xbullet and the 55 grain TBBC which I have 4 boxes of for my 22/250 (available from Federal).

The difference as I understand it is that most 22/250s were given a 1 in 14 twist while Savage builds their 22/250 (which is what I have) with a 1 in 12 twist. That faster rate of twist will stabilize the heavier (over 55 grn) bullets when fired from the 22/250. Some reports of them not shooting heavy bullets well is directly a result of the slower twist rate.

The rate of twist on the 224TTH is REALLY cranked up, around 1 in 8 if I remember right. They would overstabilize (which would cause blowup and deformation from torque) with lightweight bullets under 50 grains or so but are excellent for 65, 70 and even some 80+ grainers custom built by Berger. In the TTH those 80s can be juiced up too 3800fps fairly easily and they recorded MANY one shot kills on game larger than deer with them.

I am looking forward to "necking" a doe or two this year with my 22/250 just for the heck of it. The gun shoots great and I am looking forward too my kids learning to get used too a centerfire rifle with this gun. You can bet I will have a big gun in the stand with me while I deer hunt with this 22/250 (if for no other reason than the .24 is the minimum legal caliber in my state!) just in case ol "sad daddy" steps out. But if I had a TTH or even possibly after I set my mind at ease with this 22/250 with 55grn TBBCs this season, I might get up the nerve to carry it solo next season!

Velocity and a tough bullet design can do ALOT in the way of penetration and killing without regards too bullet diameter and energy production!
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Old 11-07-2005 | 06:41 PM
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I have built a couple of these "TTH" rifles: also known as a .22-6MM with a 8 or 9 inch twist barrel. The bullet to use seems to be a 75 grain Hornady A-Max. Hit 'em in the ribs and its lights out. I am in the process of building a .22-250 Ackley with a 9" twist for the same application. Not legal in all states (Colorado is one of them), but a pretty lethal tool for medium big game.
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Old 11-07-2005 | 08:50 PM
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Hey some great info! Yeah I might have a bit of trouble getting a real good group with my New Remington 700 22/250 on the 64 or the 70 grain. But hope I can get a good enough group to not have flyers. That 75 grain A max with the 1 and 8 twist-wow!And may look into getting a different barrel put on this one if it doesn't at least get me close to 1" groups. thanks for the info!
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Old 11-07-2005 | 08:53 PM
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Hey Roskoe I grew up in Western Colorado and some of my friends who loved to hunt Elk at night used to swear by the 22 magnum!
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Old 11-08-2005 | 11:04 AM
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I'l bet they did some real serious swearing when the game warden's spotlight illuminated their nocturnalpursuits.

If your .22-250 has the standard 1:14 barrel, I doubt if it will stabilize the 64 gr. Winchester. Usually need at least a 1:12.
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Old 11-08-2005 | 11:22 AM
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I just cant beleave people shoot deer with a 22-250. I sure hope the guys that do this do not go to a state with big deer. Shooting a 125# deer is eazy with any thing but a 250# is not the same.I have been there and watched 2 guys here in MT shoot a deer 5 times. One guy was shooting the 223 and one the 22-250. was one of the uglyest things I ever saw.The kill shot was a hit right at the bace of the antlars.When they guted the deer it had SPECKS of lead though its sholder.They lost a good part of the deer.[couldnt eat all the lead]

I shoot a 223.I have killed deer with it. The only reasion I have shot any deer with the 223 is I would be calling yotes and have a doe come in to the call. This is slightly difrant than some one grabing the 22-250 to go hunt deer.I should allso say the deer I have shot with the 223 where walking to me and at VERY close range.

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Old 11-08-2005 | 12:18 PM
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Used correctly, the 22-250 or 220 Swift are impressive one-shot killers on deer. Used incorrectly they are one of the ugliest things you have ever seen. Just like most things in life I suppose. One of P.O Ackleys books had a section on the subject and the info was very good. May have been Wilcats of the World, or something like that, it is a two volume set. He even used the .228 Ackley to flat lay down some elk.

I haven't shot many deer with my swift, but I've never hit them twice and never had them go more than 30 yards, and that was with (god forbid) a 55 grn ballistic tip. The 53 barnes shoots horrible in my 40 XBKS, about the only bullet I have ever tried that it wouldn't shoot. That and the 70 grn speer...

I guess the problem for me is what if it comes down to that 250 yard quartering shot on ole mossy horns. I don't feel comfortable with a 22 in that situation. You can take an iffy shot or pass. With my 30-06, 165 interbond I don't worry about it. Both my boys learned to shoot deer with my 7 x 57, and there were sure times I was glad of that heavier bullet.
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Old 11-08-2005 | 12:19 PM
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I have mellowed a bit in my stance against 22 caliber cartridges and deer. In the past I have had to track far more deer than I would have liked that were shot with off the shelf 22 cal ammo. In other words people were using the wrong bullet for the wrong job. Nowadays however there are several well designed game bullets in 22 caliber that should work acceptably well in the right rifle, shouldered by the right person, taking the right shot. Would I use one, nope. There are far too many other cartridges that will do a far better job. Too each his own though.
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Old 11-12-2005 | 03:03 AM
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To second what roskoe said unless you have a custom barrel your gun won't likely group a 64g or 70g bullet. If your guns a 700 I believe all/most have 1:14 twist...they don't even like some of the 55g bullets (I know, I have one. I got decent groups...but I get much better with 50g) Some guys will say that even 1:12 is marginal for a 55g. If you're looking for the ultimate smallbore deer round give the .243 ballistics a look, it's alot more impressive than you might think!
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