RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

No he is against the banning of handgun bill tabled. I attended a political meeting which featured all party colours last week. Being in Sask. most are opposed to what the liberals have done and recently tabled with regards to rec. firearms, gun control was a popular topic. The Conservatives favor a national registery for handguns (like there has been for 40 plus years in canada) but do not agree with the long gun registery. They said if they won a majority they would return the gun control (lack of better term) to pre 95. Meaning an FAC type permit to purchase firearms, etc but no official registery for long guns (scrape the cash cow we know today!!). The handgun registery would continue as is.

BTW they are the only party that take this approach. NDP, Liberal, Green, etc all favor gun control as we know it today for long gunsand as well the handgun ban as proposed by Martin's crew. I am not sure about the BLOC's stance on this issue though.

For sportsman the only option to not lose ground is HARPER. Don't kind yourself Rock said it 95' and the Liberals are slowly getting to that point..."No canadian needs a gun!!". The NDP are very close to the liberals in policy and Layton has publicly stated handguns serve no purpose in citzens hands.


I hope they can hold onto the trend and to grow, getting the seats required for a majority. A minority will notwork for Harper as PM, the conservatives are to far from the kings mate in this race (Layton's NDP). The Bloc well to radical as we have found out in the past 18 months for anyone to jump in bed with!!!

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

yes u heard right ..to me handgun's are toy's ,they can get rid of all of them .don't forget i hunt big game ,and have no use for them..my personel opinion ..

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

heinz, Harper/conservatives is not for banning handguns. He is for keeping a record/regulations of those owning handguns for recreational use but as I stated that has been policy in Canada for many years with regards to handguns.

I don't own any handguns currently nor do I see the need to ever own one again. However I am opposed to the banning because what is next???? If you look at what the Liberals set in motion in 1995 it is a bit scary to a big game hunter like ourselves what might be in store for the future? The track record is registery and confiscation! The fact is their resolve to strip canadians of firearms is nothing more than a knee jerk reaction to a spring of violent crimes. Studies point togun controldoes nothing to demote crime. Look at Australia? They imposed a similar handgun ban and program. Their gun related crime is actually up 40% since this was put in place. It just goes to show that responsible gun owners are not the ones to target here to get results?? This is just my opinion but such bans only further aid criminal activity, they create a profitable blackmarketbusiness, not to mention why would a criminal care if they broke another law. REALLY???? Fact is if you want a gun to commit a crime it can be had..lawis invisible to such individuals. The other thing many police chiefs/commanders are on record for saying they don't use the national registery as information before entering a premise/situation. They feel it is incomplete for one (ie: long guns 7 million are registered to date but in the 90's the census for such guns was pegged at 16 million in canada), so not a true representation. Police also know the overwhelming majority of gun owners aren't the ones to use the collection for crime. If the police don't believe such policies will help in reducing crime than why should any citzen? Just think if the liberals would have put that 1-2 billion into hiring more officers!!! It would be interesting to see if we would be in the same situation?

Harper has been staying away from these hot button issues that got him in trouble 18 months ago, letting Martin and crew put the foot in their own mouths instead. It appears to be working!

I know most are one his side, but as gun owners we must unite with all gun owners. There loss can ultimately impact us! Banning of hand guns will not solve the problems we face today, we all know that. So what will be the next course? More bannings? Already face reloading regs, been talk about semi auto and pump CF's/shotguns being tossed...What is next?

Get out and vote monday, make sure anybody who shares your passion for the outdoors thinks about what road we may be on if it continues!We have anreal opportunity to change this thing around in more areas than just gun control!

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

Hi guys I'm from quebec and there is no way I'm voting liberal,we are all voting conservative we have had enough! I know alot of liberal voters who have changed there minds, after all the BS that liberals have given them> They have lost alot of votes over here, thank god.
Elmer

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

u are 100% right ..we are all voting conservative we have had enough

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

Correct me if I'm wrong but the only source of unregistered long firearms in Canada is not from criminals. I don't think that the first nations have to register any of their firearms. That may sound like a small technicality but it isn't if you're located near a reserve.

I hate unequal laws. If it's OK for one group in Canada then it should be legal for the rest. Getting rid of the long gun registry would only put people back on an equal footing in that regard.

Dan O.

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

Great to hear you guys from Quebec voting for the Conservatives and pro "Canada". I must say I was beginning to think everyone in Quebecwas either Bloc or Liberal but awesome to hear that's not the case.:D

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

vote for the bloc never ..they are not going anywhere...i don't know why they are there ..[ oh yes i just got a "flash" it's the lifetime pension }

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

Got this little tid bit on email.Not new information for most but timely with Monday a coming. Pass on the message to all your outdoor/gun pals, family, anyone really. Both the media and liberals/NDP are FUDing the crap with high noon fast approaching. As many have seen the polls indicate apprehension of a Conservative Majority/mandate. Once again it appears to be working and we all know what another minority government will mean!!!

>>> We didn't make this up
>>>
>>> Canada's two billion dollar gun registry employs 1,800 bureaucrats, who
>>> spend their days tracking down duck hunters and farmers.
>>>
>>> By comparison, Canada hired only 130 additional customs officers to
>>> protect our borders after Sept.11.
>>>
>>> Here are a few more eye-rolling facts about the gun registry, mostly
>>> unearthed by MP Garry Breitkreuz from Saskatchewan.
>>>
>>> Internal audits show that government bureaucrats have a 71% error rate
>>> in licensing gun owners and a 91% error rate in registering the guns
>>> themselves.
>>>
>>> The government admits it registered 718,414 guns without serial numbers.
>>> That means either the bureaucrats forgot to write them down, or the guns
>>> didn't have serial numbers in the first place. That's as useless as
>>> registering a vehicle simply as "a blue Ford Explorer."
>>>
>>> To these gun owners, the government has sent little stickers with
>>> made-up "serial numbers" on them, that gun owners are supposed to stick
>>> on their guns. And everybody at the gun registry is praying that
>>> criminals who steal those guns won't peel off the stickers.
>>>
>>> Some 222,911 guns were registered with the same make and serial number
>>> as other guns. That's not just useless -- it's dangerous..If someone
>>> else with a "Blue Ford Explorer" is involved in a hit and run, you'll
>>> be
>>> the one getting a knock on the door by the RCMP.
>>>
>>> Out of 4,114,624 gun registration certificates, 3,235,647 had blank or
>>> missing entries -- but the bureaucrats issued them anyways.
>>>
>>> In the beginning, the government's firearms licenses had photographs on
>>> them - just like driver's licenses do. But after hundreds of gun owners
>>> were sent licenses with someone else's photo on them, the government
>>> decided to scrap photos on the licenses altogether, rather than fix the
>>> problem.
>>>
>>> Private details about every gun owner in the country are put on one
>>> computer database, called CPIC. That's valuable information to a peeping
>>> tom -- or a criminal. The CPIC computer has been breached 221 times
>>> since the mid-1990s, according to the RCMP.
>>>
>>> In August of 2002, the gun registry sent a letter to Hulbert Orser,
>>> demanding he register his guns, and warning him that it's a crime not
>>> to.Orser died in 1981.
>>>
>>> Garth Rizzuto is not dead, but he's getting older -- he applied for a
>>> gun license 2 1/2 years ago.He hasn't been rejected. They're still
>>> "processing" his application.
>>>
>>> Some 304,375 people were allowed to register guns even though they
>>> didn't have a license permitting them to own a gun.
>>>
>>> On March 1 of 2002, bureaucrats registered Richard Buckley's soldering
>>> "gun" - that's right, a heat "gun" used for welding tin and lead. No
>>> word yet on Buckley's staple guns or glue guns.
>>>
>>> Some 15,381 gun owners were licensed with no indication of having taken
>>> the gun safety courses -- one of the main arguments for licensing.
>>>
>>> Despite the billion-dollar taxpayer subsidy, gun-owners must still pay
>>> $279 for the required licenses, registration, photo ID and other costs
>>> to register a single gun. That's as much as a gun costs in the first
>>> place. It's a tax -- a tax on rural Canada.
>>>
>>> The government spent $29 million on advertising for the gun registry --
>>> including $4.5 million to Group-Action, the Liberal ad firm now under
>>> RCMP investigation.
>>>
>>> But all of these follies are trivial compared to the central,
>>> unanswerable flaw in the gun registry: Since only law-abiding gun owners
>>> will register their guns, how can the registry stop criminals?
>>>
>>> If you think this is information all Canadians should have, forward it,
>>> ask your political representatives about these facts. You don't have to
>>> be a gun owner to have concerns on the questionable actions taken and
>>> situation we are in.
>>>
>>> Maybe there is a better way?
>>>

RE: Do any of you smell a Conservative Gov"t?
 

Nailed it on the head Dan O. BTW the numbers I quoted about firearms in canada (census done in the 90's), been told this excluded natives! Your 100% right though and sure wish all of canada would look at the real truths of this matter. Maybe then they would realize guns don't commit crime!!!!!