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Sorry Guys
it's this one LOL,
http://czabe.com/mediaclips/index.shtml?a=showclip&id=461
This should work .[&o]

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It works
This is the same buck that JD gave reference to on the page before,but it's the video of the kill of that particular buck, not the picture,Great video
Youngfart :eek:

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lethal, I got it from a different site...as for the pics I wasn't far from where you speak of :)

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Yah and unfortunately in that area no one lets you hunt on their property except if you traveling west on HWY 533 and when it starts to get extremely hilly (about 10km before Chain Lakes) ive got permission all through there and there are alot of elk in that area.

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I used to hunt out there years ago but found too many people out there during the season. I head to further pastures now but still love that country. I was really surprised to see that many bucks considering the hunting pressure out there.

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Yah actually i dont hunt out there anymore for the same reason and it is amazing as to the size and the quantity of deer in the area. I wouldnt mind takin a trip down there nest season just to see how the pressure is like and how many hunters are on the land now.

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I was wondering if anyone knows of any Canadian whitetailbowhuntingDVDs and if so, the name or namesof them and where they might be found. I'd appreciate any help.:)

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Early in, I am not aware of any bowhunting productions solely on canadian whitetails. About the only canadian video productions that are put out regularly are by Bentley Coben and Jim Shockey...neither one are archery driven though.

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Thanks skeeter.

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early...it's funny, I have alwaysheard how big our deer are up here, yet there arre hardly any good hunting shows based on AB or Sask. As skeeter said there is Jim Shockey's who has probably the best ones out there but mostly rifle. Irecently saw a video with a guy showing what he does to get in close to whitetails in his neck of the woods and it worked. Funny thing was when he came to Alberta for a hunt, all he did was run after the deer taking running shots at them. I guess thats how alot of us hunt the bush up here (push & shoot). I would love to see someone put a good dvd on AB/Sask bowhunting as well. Maybe thats a good job for me:)

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JD, I think your on to something. Get me in on the ground floor!:D

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I have actually just recently started to tape mine and the people i hunts with my camcorder and maybe just maybe ill get them on a dvd and get copies made and start selling them cause by the sounds of it i would make a killing. But its all easier said them done but if by chance i do make a collection and publish it then ill let yall know.

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lethal, I think it's a great ideabut it won't be real easy. I'm sure lots of hours in the field will be needed to put a good whitetail video together, good luck and keep us posted.;)

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Hey lethal
I've been lookin at the photo in your name of the elk and can't figure out what I'm lookin at. It that a non typical elk?

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Actually im not sure how you would classify it. The antlers are the same as any other elk its just that the one antler is growing straight out from the centre of it head and then it goes back like a regular elk so its like a unicorn.


Oh and earlyin i wouldnt be doing video of just whitetail because i actually hunt for elk,moose,whitetail and mule deer,coyotes with both bow and rifle and between me and the 4 other guys i hunt with we will on average kill about 15-20 big game animals a year in alberta alone so i think i could compile enough footage to make a video so. I just hope i can make it work.

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Sounds intresting lethal, keep us updated.;)

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Lethal bit of advice don't use digital zoom(well with the models we have tried)and use a tripod or simalr to steady the cam. We have done some camcorder stuff and at times it like someone slipped something in your drink trying to watch the TV. Our biggest problem is "bush talk" when on camera, most come back with 18+ ratings...wives do better with the volume muted is all I'll say.

Did a mock fishing show a few years back while on a flyout, was the funniest thing I have ever seen in my life. Great to relive the moments but hardly show quality film work. It was really a spoof on tv fishing shows but were dead serious about slammin' gators. Had some great footage but mostly was just a raz. Animal housemeetsAl Linder type of thing..lol.

Any way best of luck. I amsure if you guys don't turn into Larry the Cable guy when you say "rolling" and have decent equipment you'll do much better than us.

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Skeeter I gotta laugh:):)I was watching some of my past hunts I've recorded this weekend and all I heard was swearing (mostly me). I can never show my kid unless it's muted:D. Anyhow, I have some great footage but nothing with a kill, just me in my stand filming deer that walk by. I have had some sucess with gophers though. Got hours of it and Ilaugh everytime I watch it...that .22 hornet & Magdoes wonders to a gopher!

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Yah ive used a tripod before and its awesome and sometimes ill free hand it just as long as i dont zoom in its not too shacky. Actually considering everyone i hunt with workers for the city and were a bunch of rednecks surprisingly there is no swearing well thats untill we get some beers into us then its a 18A movie and as long as the person doesnt miss a big buck or bull we should be good. I do want to get a better camcorder though like the ones i seen on the movie Grizzly Man and hopfully the guys i hunt with will put in for the camera cause who knows this could turn out a profit but i shouldnt get to far ahead of myself.

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Well I went shedding/scouting today and all I saw were gophers! -4 with a brutal wind but we still got a few.

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Well I went shedding/scouting today and all I saw were gophers! -4 with a brutal wind but we still got a few.

RE: Canadian Whitetails
 

Well I went shedding/scouting today and all I saw were gophers! -4 with a brutal wind but we still got a few.

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Wow JD

What may I ask do you do with them ? Just curious.
Youngfart ;)

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Leave them for the coyotes and crows...can't really do much with them. The farmer wants us to kill'em all:D

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I was wondering if you guys in Alberta have much luck patterning bucks around all those crop fields during early archery season? If so, which crop gets themost attention?

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Loyd McMan was a texas transplant to alberta years ago who got the Canadian (alberta) whitetail outfitting going back in the 70's. He was hooked up with Realtree and was a big archery fan. Now I believe he is with NA Whitetail in Georgia or there abouts. He no doubt has some alberta bow hunts on videosome where.

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Earlyin

Yes they can be patterened if time permits.........but once the farmer harvests the crop all work is out the window..........but best crops to look for big deer are pea feilds Alfalfa oats and canola......and deer love clover!!

But if your coming up to bow hunt your going to be back in the woods a good ways (200 yards) or else your hunting the edge of the feild and then your looking at possible late arrivals of the bucks on the edge of thefeed

AL

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Thanks Nicholal, that makes sense.

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T Z
Are you sure you have the right guy in your Loyd Mcman comment. I never heard he was from Texas or that he had left Alberta.

On the other hand Russell Thornberry was a Texas transplant who got heavy into white-tail outfitting and made a video called "Monachs of Alberta" about deer hunting in Alberta. He got involved with "Buckmasters" and has moved down to Alabama, I think.

Loyd had a reputation of being a great outfitter in Albertaand then it got soiled by a number of run-ins with the law in Alberta and the States.

Robin down under.

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Thanks Duffy,
your right. I must be gettin old. Russel it was. I didn't know about the run ins with the law though, too bad. Seems like money, fame and hunting never really mixes in the end.
Seems like every celebrity hunter, outfitter or taxidermist gets busted in the end.

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I saw a program years ago on Loyd M. He was a poacher who called himself a guide. His big claim to fame was stealing a set of huge antlers from an Edmonton taxidermist and stuck them on a 90 lb deer from a New mexico game farm. Laying claim to the size of deer there and using the pic in their ad's. He got fined but still continued to poach long after that. I have the video Alberta monarchs and it's pretty good, all rifle however but good tips on going after big alberta deer. R. Thornberry is the host in that film. Anyone have the Sask. hunting films they advertise in Big Buck? I was thinking of getting some of those but want some feedback first.
JDinAB

RE: Canadian Whitetails
 

Are you referring to the Sask trophy bucks Series?

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JD, do youmean "Bentley Cobins" vids? If you can stand watching him chew his lip during the damn thing they do have some VERY nice animals to view. However many find him far more_____(fill in the blank) than Chuck Adams!!!!

Primos Truth Elk videos are about the only ones I buy regularily.I however see a lot on TV with WildTV now and haven't found one I really enjoy 100% but they have their moments. I guessI justprefer shooting it with the boys &/or getting out scouting to motivate me.

So how goes the season prep all? What is our 06' look like (hunts planned, animal situation, etc)? Been awhile, hope all is well. Second thought maybe we should start a 2006 thread to keep in touch, share, etc. What you think???

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T Z
It was Lloyd Mcm who had the run ins with the law, not Russell Thornberry.

I believe Lloyd started out as a good outfitter/guide and ran afowl of the law. I knew a fellow who did some guiding and he said there was a lot of "temptation" to bend the rules. He said that rich hunters who had already payed big $ for a hunt would sometimes push a wad of bills accross the table an say "I really, reallywant to go home with a BIG trophy, if you know what I mean,(wink)". After awhile bending the rules would become easier and breaking the law would follow. I am not saying this is OK, just that I understand how it could happen.

Robin down under.

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I think it's the one Saskabush mentioned. They are a full page add in big Buck and there are about 11 volumes right now. Skeeter...prep? who has time for prep??? I'm hoping my dumb luck and great skill:Dwill put me on a 170 class whitetail this year. With the little guy almost walking now doesn't give me a ton of free time any more. Wife knows that Sept. is right around the corner so she's going to be a widow for the next little while.

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Those are the samevideos that Skeeter mentioned.

I own several of them and overall i'd agree with Skeeter. There are lots of big deer in his videos (especially mulies) but the video quality, narrative and production values areamateur at best. That said, I do enjoy seeing video and hunts shot in the same area that I grew up hunting. One warning i'd pass onabout the earlier videos in the series is that they tend to do a lot of drives and pushes. Without passing judgement on anybody's chosen method of hunting I found that the number of 2+ shot kills shown in the early videos was a little unsettling. Also, there are several scenes where you know d*mn well the deer was wounded and never recovered. It seems that as the series has progressed and they have discovered how to use funnels and baiting to get better footageof undisturbed deer.

Lloyd M was the guy that got busted or printing tags for his hunters then cancelling them and printing them again. This basically gave the hunters the chance to shoot multiple deer with tags that appeared valid. It was a routine check stop that finally busted him. I can't believe that he and his family arestill allowed to operate an outfit.

Thornberry was one of thepioneers of outfitting in Alberta. I don't think he was ever caught for anything. I have heard (heresay) from friends in the Provost area (part of the old golden triangle that Thornberry "discovered") that he was not well liked by land owners and essentially burned his bridges in many areas whichmay bewhy he returned to the states.

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Thanks Sask. I'll look to see if I can rent them from the local bow shop instead of buy them. I gotta agree with you, it's nice to see hunts in our back yard as opposed to down south somewhere where it's just not the same as AB/Sask.

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Yeah, most of those videos are shot within an hour from Saskatoon. I've always found that nothing soothesthe pre/post season itchbeter than watching videos from an area you know. Texas or Mississippi just don't do it for me. I got a digital video camera last fall and I plan on fiming some hunts this year. I think it would be cool to be able torelive my hunts for years to come.

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HAHA!!!:D I know exactly how it is. Good news not to much longer, now.

Yeah BC shoots most his stuff in the Harris area. Game Preserve butted up to "Private Land" makes for some nice antlers.

Best of luck in 06' fellas.

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Yeah, that game preserve does provide some good footage for him. It's made him a few $$bucks over the years too. I'd be interested to know how many videos he's sold.

Good luck to you too, a 2006 thread would be a good idea.