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T_in_PA3 03-03-2005 12:44 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 

after the investigation the PGC was only able to produce charges that account to a misdemeaner an shooting at a furbearer without a FT lisc
From the linked article above since some of you appear that you can't read.

Wetzel said only ''yes'' when asked by District Judge Patricia Warmkessel of South Whitehall Township if he understood the plea to charges under the state Game and Wildlife Code. Those charges are shooting at or causing injury to human beings, a misdemeanor of the second degree, and damage to property, a summary offense.

Game Commission investigators allege Wetzel was ''careless and negligent'' when he shot at the deer without a safe backstop between the animal and homes. The trajectory of Wetzel's shot, investigators said, was directly in line with Burns' driveway.

Two other charges against Wetzel — another count of shooting at or injuring a human being and firing through a safety zone — were withdrawn as part of the plea. He also pleaded guilty to shooting at a fox out of season after firing at the deer.

lost horn 03-03-2005 12:58 PM

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quote:

Game Commission investigators allege Wetzel was ''careless and negligent'' when he shot at the deer without a safe backstop between the animal and homes. The trajectory of Wetzel's shot, investigators said, was directly in line with Burns' driveway.
I thaught he was shooting at a fox. Never the less he used bad judgement.

AJ52 03-03-2005 01:18 PM

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The kid shot at a Fox in Deer season. That was a fatal mistake for this kid. My understanding from reading this thread, is the kid was convicted in criminal court. Its now a "cival" matter. If this was my wife - I would do the same thing! How much she is entitled to is the million $$ question. What is reasonble compensation. If the kid/man has a homeowners policy,he should be covered under policy.

The woman no matter what her intentions were or are then or now should be entitled to some sort of compensation from this kid(who was negligent/convicted). I don't know about PA but in most jurisdictions I've ever heard of - No intent or Negligance need be proven in a cival matter. His bullet struck her in the head. Thats the down and dirty fact.

The fact he WAS convicted in criminal court is icing on the cake. Remember the O.J. Simpson fiasco trial. He was equitted of double murder but later had to pay millions in a cival suit. But - O.J. Didn't do it because the glove didn't fit.

My .02

BTBowhunter 03-03-2005 01:21 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 
I can't believe we have people who call temselves hunters defending the indefensible. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesnt understand the concept of taking responsibility for where you bullet goes doesn't deserve tio be in the woods with a gun! This isn't a gray area.

I do not have first hand knowledge of this case but this much should be obvious to anyone. If it was a direct line of fire incident and not a ricohet then she should own his a$$ when this is over. One doesn't need legal training to to recognize that.

Defending him here is more damaging to us than anything any antigun, antihunting wacko can spew out.

ddear 03-03-2005 01:32 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 

I can't believe we have people who call temselves hunters defending the indefensible. As far as I'm concerned, anyone who doesnt understand the concept of taking responsibility for where you bullet goes doesn't deserve tio be in the woods with a gun! This isn't a gray area.


I can't believe that you expect hunters to only take shots where there is a solid backstop visible in the immediate area of the deer. Anytime soneone fires at a deer on level groung in the woods , that bullet has the potential to hit some thing other the intended target. If the hunter in question fired into an orchard of trees with no houses visible it would be no different than a hunter two hundred yds into a woodlot shooting toward the edge of the woodlot. Most hunters would consider that to be a safe shot, because they would expect the bullet to hit a tree and there may be only one chance in a thousand where it wouldn't, but it definitely can happen.

T_in_PA3 03-03-2005 02:13 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 
beenthere,
Your expectations are very much different than any safe hunter then.

BTBowhunter 03-03-2005 02:18 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 
I hope the mods decide to delete this thread. I'm embarassed as a hunter that it is even a subject for discussion.

lost horn 03-03-2005 02:32 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 

ORIGINAL: BTBowhunter

I hope the mods decide to delete this thread. I'm embarassed as a hunter that it is even a subject for discussion.
I will second that.

ddear 03-03-2005 02:56 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 

I do not have first hand knowledge of this case but this much should be obvious to anyone. If it was a direct line of fire incident and not a ricohet then she should own his a$$ when this is over. One doesn't need legal training to to recognize that.

You admit you don't have first hand knowledge of what happened , yet you have no problem condemming a fellow hunter when you obviously don't have all the facts. It may have been a direct line of fire accident ,but the PGC admitted the hunter couldn't see the house or the car from where he was standing. He fired into a grove of treees expecting the bullet would be stopped by a tree just like a hunter in a woodlot.

Furthermore , I doubt if very many hunters in a woodlot could accurately locate the houses within half a mile of that would lot unless they were visible. BTW, you need more than legal training , you need some common sense and the realization that accidents do happen even when we are doing our best to hunt safely. In fact, I belive there was an acident this year where a hunter was shot by another hunter in the woods and the PGC found that the hunter that was hit was not visible to the hunter that fired the shot. Should that hunter be sued and loose everything he has?

BTBowhunter 03-03-2005 03:04 PM

RE: the truth about Casey Burns
 
You just dont get it do ya?[:'(]


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