RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

It's nice to know some of you have easy hunting ,but in 2003 only 1 out of every 3 anterless tags were filled. Now, unless the hunters just bought the tags to use as wall paper ,a lot of hunters apparently are having a hard time finding a deer to fill their tags.

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

lost horn it is about the money. guess u dont know this but the PGC was asking for a 2 dollar increase on doe permits. only reason it didnt go threw was that the commission said no. they are already catching enough flack about lack of deer from hunters and didnt think it would be wise to implement an increase

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

It is probably inevitable that doe tags will go up in price. The PGC not in the best financial shape and sooner or later the doe tags numbers will have to be cut back as deer populations go down (that is the goal)

Of course, they could begin cutting a few more trees to help with that revenue and help enhance the wildlife habitat at the same time.

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Let's see here......trout stockings have gone down .....the F&B commissions excuse=lack of funding
And....hunting license increases, more doe licenses.....the PGC excuse=lack of funding.

Seems pretty elementary to me....combine to two agencies and cut overhead costs in half.

If something isn't done about the decrease in the deer population soon, there won't be anything left to fix

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

Makes perfect sense as long as they stop short of a merge with DCNR

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

Combining them wont solve anything. you would stil have the same issues regardless. The study done shows that there would not be a significant savings if it was done. Should any license increase be sought now? In my opinion no not until they can honsetly make an effert to listen to and start to do what was said in the bginiing. That is to tweak this management plan to suit the various areas. So far that has not been done. The only tweaking I have seen done is add AR to special reg areas which doesnt honestly make a whole h*ll of a lot of sense since the goal there is to reduce the herd. And keep adding dmap tags. Will we see a drop in doe tags this year maybe but want to bet its offset by more dmap? The PGC needs to reestablish if they can the the trust between them and the hunting faction. Not sure at this point it can be done.

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

Just beware of a token reduction in the anterless tags. In 1997 with only 678K anterless licenses sold and only a 3 day season ,hunters harvested 220K anterless and that harvest kept the herd stable. Therefore, if they decreased the anterless allocation by 300K tags , there would still be more than enough tags to reduce the herd even more. Remember the increased the lenght of the anterless season by 400% with the concurrent season and allowed the use of rifles in the extended anterless season in 5C.

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

I wouldnt suppose you can back that up could you. And dont use 97 figures because they wouldnt apply if half the claims you've made as far as the herd reduction so far are true.

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

I have no idea what you are saying about the stats from 1997. ARE you saying we have more deer than we had in 1997 or are you saying we have less deer? The PGC claims we still had 1.6 M PS deer in 2004. Do you agree or disagree? If you disagree , then how many PS deer do you think we had in 2004?

My position is we had less PS deer in 2004 than we did in 1997. What is your position?

RE: Doe shooting in Pa
 

It may be about money now but when the doe slaughter first started they could of raised the fee for doe tags to 12.00 and had no problem getting rid of them. now it's too late to raise them, after the slaughter