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BTBowhunter 01-02-2005 04:52 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 

I figured out our problem with the deer herd. People like Buck Magnet who feed the deer.

CattNY, I dont think BM feeds deer, I think he was making a point. Feeding deer (for the purpose of hunting them) is both illegal in his home state and not good for the herd. Planting food plots is a bit different and is perfectly legal and IMHO not in violaton of fair chase.
Planting crops that feed deer as a by product and planting crops to leave for the deer are not much different. Dumping mass quantities of feed that didnt grow there is baiting and is not fair chase IMHO.

CattNY 01-02-2005 04:56 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
Hello BT... If you read Buck Magnet's post... He stated he set out feeders... My conclusion on that statement was that he feeds thems to photograph them during the off season. This is not right. One must never feed wild animals, especially in the winter. It changes their diet from the browse they need.

BTBowhunter 01-02-2005 05:05 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
I must've missed that one.... MY BAD!!!:)

BM, please clear this up for us.

ulysses 01-02-2005 05:14 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
Funny how some guy's hunting ethics slip when horn hunting enters the picture...it is illegal to hunt migratory birds be it ducks,geese,doves over a food plot you planted with the intention of hunting over. The feds call that baiting an any ethical hunter would never do that. But the same guys (slobs?)will plant the same plots and sit over them for deer trying to kill a food plot semi tame buck just for the egotistical thrill of horn hunting.
Yeah I'm glad to see the minority of hunters in Pa that want to turn it into a HORN state...not!

BTBowhunter 01-02-2005 05:46 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
First, the idea of keeping ANY kind of hunter from hunting for bucks is selfish at best and contributing to the PETA mentality at worst. It's justs as preposterous to propose no bowhunting for bucks as it would be to say that since rifle hunters kill about 80% of the bucks that we shoud limit rifle buck tags till the rifle buck kill is around 65% since we have about 35% bowhunters.

I also find it disturbing that adults here who don't want to be restricted by AR want to see (since they have to comply with it) that same AR imposed on kids and our active duty servicemen. Kind of a double standard IMHO!!! Personally, I think we need to bend over backwards for our servicemen and our youth!

We've always been horn hunters here in PA. The dispute is over a matter of standards. Some guys want to shoot any buck (with horns) under the old standards and some are happy that the standard has gone up. It seems, at least around here, like people are adjusting to the new standards and seem willing to accept that a doe is just as good as rhar little spike!!!

ulysses 01-02-2005 06:12 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
Bt go back and reread the post just before your last one...where did I mention in it to stop anyone from hunting bucks?
I refered to planting food plots to hunt over them. The feds say that is illegal to do for migratory birds...why is it suddenly ethical since the inept PGC has not addressed the issue for deer/

are you sure you aren't a card carrying PETA member yourself ? you sure post about their inner working alot

PS I kill button bucks all the time an preach for everyone to do it rather than a doe. I kill them in every legal season with every legal weapon and you know what??? the PGC loves me for it, heck they issue all the tags I need for them. Has it suddenly become illegal to kill them here in PA??????????? why because you want them to grow into MONSTERWHITETAILBUCKS for some sick club????????????????????????????

Pa Trophy Man 01-02-2005 06:20 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
Ulysses, you keep talking about this monster Whitetail club. I was just wondering were i could sign up and if i get any neat prizes for joining like a secret society big buck decoder ring.

BTBowhunter 01-02-2005 06:28 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 

make everyone follow the same AR
drop youth hunting days altogether
no buck hunting for archers
60% cut in doe tags
who said this on page 1 of this thread???

BTBowhunter 01-02-2005 06:30 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
shhhh!!!! if you want your secret decoder ring, you cant talk about it here!!!;)

CattNY 01-02-2005 06:32 PM

RE: what do you want in pa
 
Look at the latest craze now... look in Walmart, Cabelas, etc., people are selling feeders and seed for food plots. These do not help the herd but hinder it. On private land, where these feeders reside, the herd will congregate and overpopulate. No wonder people are not seeing deer on public land. Slobs are pulling deer with food plots and feeders onto private land. What happens when these slobs run into hard times and can't afford feed or seed anymore... welcome deer starvation. It's no wonder we have CWD, Lyme disease, rabies and West Nile virus worries. It's because of these trophy hunters congregating deer and their predators to their private land. This my friend, is why public land hunting has gone downhill.


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