RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

"Deaddeer, I do not know where you got that fact from, but according to a biologist I know from the QDMA. He lives in Pa and said before Alt put his plan in the woks. The buck to doe ratio throughout most of Pa was 10:1 and higher."



You better do your math again sport!!!!!

PA ain't got no 10:1 ratio of anything unless you count those who are against the current deer plan : those who like it.

Pa's B:D ratio before Cutnrun Alt blew into and out of town was around 1:2.1 and not a problem at all for the buck to get the
does bred.

#1 problem you got so far is you listened to a Kip Adams clone (or worse Kip) and he ain't exactly truthfull when spinning his tales about deer. QDMA is not exactly a solid source for any deer data.

Start with a 100 deer in your 1 mile area and pick how many you say are buck (X). Shoot every one of them in rifle season and then have your does give birth in the spring and they have as boys as girls. Your ratio (even if you overshoot every adult buck in hunting) will be right back to 1:3 in the spring.

Anyone who tells you that you or Pa had a 10:1 ratio is a snake oil salesman who is spinning BS.

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Other than those attempting to discredit ALt and his deer plan, Who here believes that the pre AR BD ratio was 1 to 2.1???? Every third deer would have been sportin a rack. Thats just plain ridiclous!!

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

I do, and not every 3rd deer had to have a rack they could just as easily be BB. your posts continue to show your complete lack of knowledge of deer

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

OK let me clarify it for you: I was referring to adult deer and every third adult deer having antlers is still ridiculous. (at least it would have been before AR)

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Bt let's see a mature doe drops twin fawns on the average, that's 1 mature doe,an possibly 1 doe fawn and 1 buck fawn 1+1+1=3 today just as it did back in 1945 when I was in school

"course if that doe dropped her twins around my patch I'm pretty sure that the BB would be in the freezer before the end of October. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHHH! Button buck it makes my mouth start to water just thinking about those chops!

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Wrong again. In jan 2001 we had 1 M OW deer. In 2001 we harvested 203K buck and carried over 60K for a total PS buck population of 263K buck and 641K PS adult doe, which produces a B/D ratio of 1: 2.4.

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

When is everyone going to realize that Ulysses is always right and we are all blind to everything in the world.

Man I'm glad I have him looking after what I don't see.:D

OH yeah, 1:2.1 ratio.............Thats a good one!:D

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Do you have one bit of documented evidence that shows that we didn't have a 1 : 2.1 B/D ratio in 2001. If you are capable of doing simple math you would realize that with a harvest of 203K buck in 2001 and an OW herd of 1M, the buck to doe ratio had to be better than 1:3.

Remember ,we are discussing the adult breeding B/D ratio, not the ratio of antlered to anterless PS deer!!!!!!!!

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Oh boy)$!$@*%!_

RE: Put Pa buck tag on a lottery
 

Show me a hunter who believes we had a BD ratio of 1:2.1 or even 1:2.4 in 01 and I'll show you a guy who thinks Bill Clinton didn't lie!

Once again you crunch the numbers to suit you. You yourself have refused to believe the ow deer number you hjust cited and we were killing 85-90% of all adult bucks not 70% before AR