NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
06-25-2004 | 08:52 PM
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NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
http://www.timesunion.com/AspStories...storyID=232052
Would this make 50 cal muzzleloaders illegal??
WTF??.......it seems like they are after some huge powerful target models that weigh in excess of 50lbs but it's crap like this that opens the door to getting your hunting rifle taken away next.
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State considers becoming first to ban .50-caliber rifle
Silver cites attack fears, but target shooters say weapons are ill-suited for such purposes
By MICHAEL GORMLEY, Associated Press
First published: Thursday, March 25, 2004
ALBANY -- The civilian counterpart of the .50-caliber firearm that became a war movie icon is being recast by some as a tool of terrorism.
On Tuesday, California's Contra Costa County approved a ban on the sale of the heavy, powerful .50-caliber firearms outside incorporated municipalities. Supporters said they hope to use the measure to leverage a broader ban, such as proposed earlier in the state legislature and in Illinois.
In New York, a ban on the sale of the large-bore firearms favored by upscale competitive shooters has become an anti-terrorism priority for the Democrats who rule the Assembly. Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno said Wednesday he is considering what would be the nation's first state ban.
"The .50-caliber weapon is capable of shooting planes out of the sky, piercing armor," said Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, a Democrat who represents the lower-Manhattan area hit in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
"Fifty-caliber guns have no legitimate purpose, and to keep them legal is supporting keeping them legal for terrorists and others," Silver said.
John Robertson of the 4,000-member worldwide 50 Caliber Shooters Association based in Monroe, Utah, said a .50-caliber firearm is too heavy, too hard to conceal and creates too little damage to be a terrorist tool. He said the bullet creates a half-inch hole and doesn't splinter to create further damage as in smaller-caliber bullets.
"We have a better safety record than your local high school cheerleading team," Robertson said.
The rifles shoot a large bullet and are accurate to within four inches at 1,000 yards at supersonic velocity, then carry more than two miles with declining accuracy. The forerunner is the .50-caliber machine gun that has been used in the military worldwide since World War I, but today's rifles available on the legal market are often single shot, bolt-action firearms.
Today, the rifles cost between $2,000 and $11,000, can weigh 50 pounds and are most often used by target shooters in competitions nationwide. Occasionally, they are used in big-game hunting in Africa, Alaska and some western states.
"If a target shooter wants them, why not?" said Ron Neudecker, who has sold a few of the rifles from his Neudecker's Guns & Ammo in Lansingburgh.
Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Silver cites attack fears, but target shooters say weapons are ill-suited for such purposes
By MICHAEL GORMLEY, Associated Press
First published: Thursday, March 25, 2004
ALBANY -- The civilian counterpart of the .50-caliber firearm that became a war movie icon is being recast by some as a tool of terrorism.
On Tuesday, California's Contra Costa County approved a ban on the sale of the heavy, powerful .50-caliber firearms outside incorporated municipalities. Supporters said they hope to use the measure to leverage a broader ban, such as proposed earlier in the state legislature and in Illinois.
In New York, a ban on the sale of the large-bore firearms favored by upscale competitive shooters has become an anti-terrorism priority for the Democrats who rule the Assembly. Republican Senate Majority Leader Joseph Bruno said Wednesday he is considering what would be the nation's first state ban.
"The .50-caliber weapon is capable of shooting planes out of the sky, piercing armor," said Assembly Speaker Sheldon Silver, a Democrat who represents the lower-Manhattan area hit in the Sept. 11, 2001, attacks.
"Fifty-caliber guns have no legitimate purpose, and to keep them legal is supporting keeping them legal for terrorists and others," Silver said.
John Robertson of the 4,000-member worldwide 50 Caliber Shooters Association based in Monroe, Utah, said a .50-caliber firearm is too heavy, too hard to conceal and creates too little damage to be a terrorist tool. He said the bullet creates a half-inch hole and doesn't splinter to create further damage as in smaller-caliber bullets.
"We have a better safety record than your local high school cheerleading team," Robertson said.
The rifles shoot a large bullet and are accurate to within four inches at 1,000 yards at supersonic velocity, then carry more than two miles with declining accuracy. The forerunner is the .50-caliber machine gun that has been used in the military worldwide since World War I, but today's rifles available on the legal market are often single shot, bolt-action firearms.
Today, the rifles cost between $2,000 and $11,000, can weigh 50 pounds and are most often used by target shooters in competitions nationwide. Occasionally, they are used in big-game hunting in Africa, Alaska and some western states.
"If a target shooter wants them, why not?" said Ron Neudecker, who has sold a few of the rifles from his Neudecker's Guns & Ammo in Lansingburgh.
Copyright 2004 Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten, or redistributed.
Would this make 50 cal muzzleloaders illegal??
WTF??.......it seems like they are after some huge powerful target models that weigh in excess of 50lbs but it's crap like this that opens the door to getting your hunting rifle taken away next.
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06-26-2004 | 05:33 PM
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RE: NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
I am from Illinois.
I am unaware of any ban in effect here. I have some buddies who have .50 caliber guns and they shoot them often(as often as they can afford ammo).
Good luck!
LLBUX
I am unaware of any ban in effect here. I have some buddies who have .50 caliber guns and they shoot them often(as often as they can afford ammo).
Good luck!
LLBUX
06-26-2004 | 08:48 PM
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RE: NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
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This was tried in New Jersey, but that was quickly knocked down!!!!! Good luck to fellow sportsmen/women in New York!!!
This was tried in New Jersey, but that was quickly knocked down!!!!! Good luck to fellow sportsmen/women in New York!!!
06-28-2004 | 12:57 AM
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RE: NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
I guess these policitial people cannot read. I could have sworn that a 50cal was a firearm? SECOND AMENDMENT ring a bell. I just think that this is another attempt by people who want to ban guns from responsible gun owners and are using the events from 9/11 and the war on terror as a motive to do it. Pretty sad isn't it.
06-28-2004 | 07:04 AM
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RE: NY considers ban on 50 caliber rifles
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I guess these policitial people cannot read. I could have sworn that a 50cal was a firearm? SECOND AMENDMENT ring a bell. I just think that this is another attempt by people who want to ban guns from responsible gun owners and are using the events from 9/11 and the war on terror as a motive to do it. Pretty sad isn't it.
I guess these policitial people cannot read. I could have sworn that a 50cal was a firearm? SECOND AMENDMENT ring a bell. I just think that this is another attempt by people who want to ban guns from responsible gun owners and are using the events from 9/11 and the war on terror as a motive to do it. Pretty sad isn't it.
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