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Potterco 02-20-2010 07:14 AM

Roe led us to think there wouldn't be drilling money for the PGC...a lie again...but like you said only if the Leg. doesn't ear mark it for something other than the PGC...will not buying a back tag bring them to their knees??? I doubt it, but I cannot justify supporting them without their restructing within.
Truth be told I don't want the PGC to be absorbed by the DCR I just want the PGC restructured to a more hunter friendly org. ...and that isn't going to come about without legislature involvment.

BTBowhunter 02-20-2010 07:21 AM


Originally Posted by Potterco (Post 3580539)
let's see hunt a posted private lease...... an then welcome all one day wonder hunters to hunt all season anywhere but your posted place....yep just the type comment that drives the death wedge

First, by that statement, you expose that you have absolutely no clue where and how I hunt.

Second, I welcome the one day wonders and everyone else to do their best to take advantage of any and every of the many hunting opportunities across PA. Hunters are limited to opportunities only by their level of commitment to their sport. Those who want it enough find or make their opportunities. Others sit and wait for those opportunities to be delivered to them. Which kind are you?

pats102862 02-20-2010 11:49 AM


Originally Posted by Cornelius08 (Post 3580436)




Course you dont have to worry pats. Pgc is coming into a TON of cash according to the legislative budget & finance committee report on pgc & the marcellus shale deal. HUGE projections. 700,000,000 plus, in only 4 state game lands in northeast Pa. Thats considering they hold 24% of mineral rights according to roe, and estimate from budget & finances committee that those gamelands are projected to produce over $3 billion.

I doubt congress and Rendell Would let the PGC with that kind of money. Just way to many entitlement socialist programs could be funded with that money. They could create a deer for every hunter entitlement:poke:.

Cornelius08 02-20-2010 12:10 PM

As for the entitlement, I think we should be entitled to normal management which includes deer densities in line with normal states. Nothing more nothing less. Thats isnt so much to ask, and many of us simply arent gonna settle for less. They want that spoken of "healing process" to begin, then i suggest they get out the band-aids.

No reason to believe unnatural forests with ridiculous unnecessary levels of biodiversity should be an entitlement. To the enviro extremists. :s4:

Cornelius08 02-20-2010 12:17 PM

Being absorbed by dcnr is no imminent threat. And if pgc were in trouble, it wouldnt be the only or best option. Anyways, Pgcs far from going under, and if the dcnr route ever even became an option it wouldnt happen overnight. There'd be PLENTY Of advanced warning & time to address it. It would be a complex undertaking and wouldnt have just happened one morning when we read the paper in the morning.

It would take proposals, then votes and public notice.

nothing but pgc scare tactics. Funny thing is, the ones who WANT merger such as Levdansky, audubon, etc. are also supporting the fee increase. Reason is, they know right now merger isnt even on the table as an option, but they do want the deer plan in place as is.

bluebird2 02-20-2010 12:21 PM


Others sit and wait for those opportunities to be delivered to them. Which kind are you?
What does every hunter do while sitting in his treestand? Isn't he waiting for the opportunity of a shot be delivered by a deer walking by?

BTBowhunter 02-20-2010 02:25 PM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3580681)
What does every hunter do while sitting in his treestand? Isn't he waiting for the opportunity of a shot be delivered by a deer walking by?

You obviously didnt understand my last post. Go back and reread it. It wasnt about waiting for a shot opportunity. It's about making your hunting opprtunities vs expecting someone else to do it for you. LOL!

bluebird2 02-20-2010 02:49 PM

I understood the intent of you previous post and it was to put down other hunters who do not have the same opportunities and resources you might have. The simple fact is the PGC doesn't provide any deer or opportunities for any individual hunter to harvest a deer. What they do is limit the number of deer hunters have the opportunity to hunt and limit the number of days we can harvest a deer.The PGC has never managed the herd in a way that every hunter had the opportunity to be successful.

BTBowhunter 02-20-2010 05:09 PM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3580742)
I understood the intent of you previous post and it was to put down other hunters who do not have the same opportunities and resources you might have. The simple fact is the PGC doesn't provide any deer or opportunities for any individual hunter to harvest a deer. What they do is limit the number of deer hunters have the opportunity to hunt and limit the number of days we can harvest a deer.The PGC has never managed the herd in a way that every hunter had the opportunity to be successful.

Sorry but you still dont understand. The opportunities and resources you speak of are generally not going to land in your lap. As far as limiting the number of deer to hunt and the days we can hunt, thats always been the case. What each individual hunter makes of those opportunities that I spoke of was the point of the original post. If you felt that was a put down, you must have some concerns about your level of commitment to take that so personally.

Buck Hunter 1 02-21-2010 02:57 AM

BTB, you are the master of forgetting your words or the old line "U just don't understand what I said"! Your constant writings bleed w/your arrogance and exclusionist ideas. I am glad you are just a forum member and not in any position to influence hunting in PA. You would of course fit in w/ the PGC admin as you are a master at the twist and I ain't talking dancing here.


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