pats102862

I won,t take a doe were I hunt my bucks. They are more useful to me alive. Like I said before, the bucks won't come through my area looking for them to breed if they are allready dead. Try to explain that to some people, its in one ear and out the other.

pahunter60

[quote=bronko22000;3519491]Well PA I would like to say I am on your side. But I am not. And if you father has trouble counting points, then he may need better glasses or may just have to give it up. I know that's harsh but just the way it is. Sounds to me like you and your father are a meat hunters and just want to kill a deer. Nothing wrong with that either. Just buy an anterless tag and shoot a doe.

First my dad doesnt need glasses and i think he gave up after all the 40 years he deer hunted, its sad he just likes to go out with me, and in rifle season usually you see deer running right? there not just gonna stop and let you count the points. its not easy. and another thing, you said just shoot a doe, another reason why the herd is down so much. its hard for guys to count points and dont wanna risk anything and just shoot does, and get multiple tags. with the two week combined..does are just getting slaughtered.

PAThwacker

You can't fire on running does either...gotta scope the head for buttons, and more likely than not it's a small spike alone, or doe in pairs. AR made the game more challenging, safer, less brown it's downers, less shots on running deer, less fathers killing their own sons. What more could we want? I jumped a half racked something huge the other day. You know one jump, two jump, and poof gone. One less idiot peppering the woods with lead the better.

pahunter60

wait did you just call my dad an idiot? i didnt mean hauling the mail dumba$$, even if there just trotting its tough to count points. yea what more could we want, the AR made the game so much more challenging, it just made guys shoot more does, which in the long run, made the popluation plunge almost to nothing. and if you really did call my dad an idiot, FAH Q

bluebird2

You need to get your facts straight before making claims like that. It is illegal to hunt deer with more than 25 hunters in a group. Further, the clubs still make drives for deer and bear.
No, you do not have to check for buttons!!

blkpowder

Yeah that made some slow down and look. But there is still quite a few that still throw the lead first,look later. A lot of slobs and greed in the deer woods.

bluebird2

In 2008 13 % of our 926K hunters harvested a buck and only 3% of those 926K hunters harvested a 2.5+buck that was the result of ARs. Since over half of those 2.5+ bucks had 7 points or less, only around 1.5% of PA hunters harvested a buck 2.5+ buck with 8 or more points in 2008.

pats102862

Its really hard to feel sorry for these people when they don't see deer.

bluebird2

That is only true if you are a self centered ,selfish individual that has no concern for the future of hunting in PA.

If you are one of the few that believe the PGC propaganda, the PA hunters are harvesting all the deer that are available on a sustainable basis. Therefore, if those hunters that aren't seeing deer ,hunted harder and harvested more deer ,they would reduce the herd even more and we would have fewer successful hunters in the future. Is that what you want?

the outsider

Amen Manyspurs, and in Potter County. Remember the days of the Potter Enterprise Big Buck Contest at Goodenough's? One time I entered a 10 point, 16" spread, with long tines just for kicks (3.5 year old), and it was a midget compared to the winner. It was taken from the southern part of the county where there were no farms.

A year later I passed on a questionable shot at a 10 pointer with a 20"+ spread. We spotted him at night before the season. They were there, you just had to find them. But if you wanted to take a smaller deer, the opportunity was there.