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10-17-2009 | 03:13 AM
#11
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Feb 2003
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From: SW PA USA
It appears that the page on the QDMA link is dated 2005. If it was published in 2005, the data would be a year or two older than that. That would, of course, lead to a margin for error anywhere but would be especially noticeable in many parts of PA. It would be interesting and valuable if that chart had footnotes that cited to source of the data for each state or region. This map has been out for awhile but I cant find any links thst give a clue when or how often it gets updated.
10-17-2009 | 08:19 AM
#12
Giant Nontypical
Joined: Dec 2005
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From: PA.
It appears that the page on the QDMA link is dated 2005. If it was published in 2005, the data would be a year or two older than that. That would, of course, lead to a margin for error anywhere but would be especially noticeable in many parts of PA. It would be interesting and valuable if that chart had footnotes that cited to source of the data for each state or region. This map has been out for awhile but I cant find any links thst give a clue when or how often it gets updated.
not 1 of these people hunt this area for as long as me.most dont hunt there at all.for some reason they have to say there are 3 times as many deer as there are.then when a hunter says he is not seeing a deer there they say,THERE IS MORE THAN KILLING A DEER TO ENJOY WOODS
this is a DMAP area and guess where they use DMAPS.
not there they go up summerson mtn and use them on privateland where its NOT DMAP area.then say that SPROUL CORN IS KILLING DEER, I FOUND 7 DEAD DEER IN 1 AREA FROM EATING CORN.i said, ANY PICTURES,NO.DID YOU NOTIFY THE PGC ,NO..............
I COULD SEE IF IT WAS A COUGAR THAT EAT CORN AND YOU COULD NOT GET PICTURE.i swear some must think we hunters are bunch of nit-wits
10-17-2009 | 08:40 AM
#13
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Yep. Its dated data. Found this on lowcountry hunting.com.
"In 2001 the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA) produced a map showing the estimated deer density by county for the lower 48 states. The map also included deer herd and harvest information, the estimated number of deer-vehicle collisions and QDM trend information. The map contained data provided by state wildlife agencies from 1994 to 1999. The map has been extremely popular as it is a valuable reference to compare relative deer densities, harvest data and other herd statistics among states. Recently, QDMA updated the map with information obtained from state wildlife agencies. The new map contains information from 2001 to 2005 and noticeable changes have occurred since the initial map was produced. The data set is not complete as a few states didnt provide data and some didnt provide all of the requested information, but the submitted information provides for meaningful comparisons among states and between the 2001 map and the present. "
Only understandable that the data would be behind considering the magnitude of the project, but imho because of that, it does more harm than good by providing large inaccuracies in states with significantly changing deer herds, and effects public perception by unintentionally misleading them. If i read that correctly, there have only been 2 of these maps made. One using data from 1994 to 1999 and the last one using data from 2001 to 2005. That explains alot. Pretty clear the Pa data was taken from early 2000's when much of our reduction hadnt yet occurred. This is not a bad idea to have such maps, but would be far more beneficial if each states came from their own management agency. That way it wouldnt be such a huge undertaking, would be using already in house data, and could be easily updated yearly.
http://lowcountryhunting.com/2008/07...cas-deer-herd/
"In 2001 the Quality Deer Management Association (QDMA) produced a map showing the estimated deer density by county for the lower 48 states. The map also included deer herd and harvest information, the estimated number of deer-vehicle collisions and QDM trend information. The map contained data provided by state wildlife agencies from 1994 to 1999. The map has been extremely popular as it is a valuable reference to compare relative deer densities, harvest data and other herd statistics among states. Recently, QDMA updated the map with information obtained from state wildlife agencies. The new map contains information from 2001 to 2005 and noticeable changes have occurred since the initial map was produced. The data set is not complete as a few states didnt provide data and some didnt provide all of the requested information, but the submitted information provides for meaningful comparisons among states and between the 2001 map and the present. "
Only understandable that the data would be behind considering the magnitude of the project, but imho because of that, it does more harm than good by providing large inaccuracies in states with significantly changing deer herds, and effects public perception by unintentionally misleading them. If i read that correctly, there have only been 2 of these maps made. One using data from 1994 to 1999 and the last one using data from 2001 to 2005. That explains alot. Pretty clear the Pa data was taken from early 2000's when much of our reduction hadnt yet occurred. This is not a bad idea to have such maps, but would be far more beneficial if each states came from their own management agency. That way it wouldnt be such a huge undertaking, would be using already in house data, and could be easily updated yearly.
http://lowcountryhunting.com/2008/07...cas-deer-herd/
Last edited by Cornelius08; 10-17-2009 at 08:49 AM.
10-18-2009 | 02:30 PM
#14
Typical Buck
Joined: Jan 2009
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From: 2G Gaines Pa
That QDM map is a joke. Any fool with a half a brain know that in Tioga and Potter Counties, the deer population per square mile north of Rt 49 in DOUBLE IF NOT TRIPLE what it is south of 49. I see they have Bee Tree Hollow in Tioga County at 15-30. If it's much more than 10 in truth I'd be shocked.
