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sproulman 08-11-2009 01:57 PM


Originally Posted by bluebird2 (Post 3404509)
While poaching is a problem and we should all do whatever we can to stop it , it is not the reason why the herd was reduced in 2G and stopping all poaching in 2G will not result in the herd increasing. Harvests that exceeded recruitment reduced the herd and the only thing that will allow the herd to increase is harvests that are less than recruitment.

no doubt the HR reduced herd but bad habitat is not helping also ,then throw in coyotes WE NEVER HAD and dumb a bears who now like fawn meat do to lack of berries etc do to droughts,no doubt all are reducing the herd.

these coyotes /bears are doing number on fawns,then throw in all dmap tags and doe tags and hunters that just want meat,not sport of it.wonder we have any deer left.

i hate it when i hear locally,I FILLED THE FREEZER AGAIN.:hit:

bluebird2 08-11-2009 02:07 PM

WMU 2G had bad habitat , coyotes , bears and drought in 2003 when it produced a harvest of over 30K deer.. In 2008 those same conditions only produced a harvest of 13,300 deer, when it could still be producing harvests of over 25,000.

sproulman 08-11-2009 02:26 PM


Originally Posted by BTBowhunter (Post 3404436)
Go get em Sproul! We need more guys like you helping the WCO's with their eyes and ears.

Maybe if we had that license increase that your USP buddies are fighting, the PGC could fill that vacant WCO position:confused2:

doe permits are way to low.i would charge 30 dollars for doe permit.

bluebird2 08-11-2009 02:31 PM

There are 79K tags left in 5C and 60K left in 2B . How many of those bonus tags do you think they would sell at $30/tag?

bowtruck 08-11-2009 04:16 PM

They sell a boat load at 26$ my guess is the if residents didnt pay it . the nonresidents would pay the extra and grab up some tags

BTBowhunter 08-11-2009 05:32 PM

Most (probably not all but most) of the 2B tags will eventually be sold. Since they havent sold out in a while, there's no urgency among the locals around here to get one. I generally try to see to it that 6 or 7 does get taken from my area in 2B whether by me, a friend or my kids. I usually buy 3-4 tags before season and get more over the counter as needed. I'm sure I'm not the only one who buys their second, third etc after taking one.

There's also the guys who simply wait till just before gun season and another group that chooses to get 2B's after not scoring further from home.

bluebird2 08-12-2009 03:58 AM


Originally Posted by bowtruck (Post 3405555)
They sell a boat load at 26$ my guess is the if residents didnt pay it . the nonresidents would pay the extra and grab up some tags


The PGC only sold 20,682 non-resident antlerless tags in 2008. Less than half of non-resident hunters bought a doe tag and the number of non-resident hunters is steadily declining.

sproulman 08-12-2009 06:00 PM


Originally Posted by bowtruck (Post 3405555)
They sell a boat load at 26$ my guess is the if residents didnt pay it . the nonresidents would pay the extra and grab up some tags

locals WILL pay 30 dollars for doe meat,so will camps.you are dead right, THE OUT OF STATE WILL PAY IT.many out of state hunters say that we are so cheap on license fees that they cant believe it.

get those doe tags raised way up.

Cornelius08 08-12-2009 06:13 PM

Only ones i hear say they cant believe how cheap the license fees are, are the pgc supporters who want a fee increase.lol

Then when we compare to other states... Like WV. Where you can buy a hunting + muzzleload + archery + trapping + fishing and more... all combined for 33 bucks... And the same for us total is well over a hundred....

Well lets just say there agument isnt worth a hill of deer beans.:s12:

Cornelius08 08-12-2009 06:15 PM

I do agree though sproul, the antlerless tags particularly are underpriced imho.


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