Im thinking that guy would sink your little boat corny.

"You know you have never discredited any of my post Zeus."

Oh NOOOO. Of course not. You never lied about poll votes and got caught either. lmao.

nope i havent but you have lmao

Any of you Nancys sending for another doe tag?:s13:

Funny guy liar truck. Anyway dont feel bad. I also found patsy's pic. He has on his fishin' outfit waiting for you to pick him up. Maybe he can help you balance out that boat.

Yes Jim. Not gonna use though. Just like to give pgc a donation each year for doing such a fine job.


How bout you?

its your boat corny float it as you please

so your wife works at micky D whats your point corny

If thats my wife, i guess that would make you my step son?. lmao.

The genetics are pretty obvious. Not hard to see where junior gets it. lmao:arms:

Now go get daddy a switch off the tree. NOW!...... (lol)

I just might, maybe Obama will send me some stimulating cash. :cool15:

And a new smart car to haul out your kill.:cool15:

I know you guys are having fun but if we can bring the subject back on topic a bit. What do you think is going to happen when 50,000 hunters hit that same 600 square mile tract of land? What happens when most are highly skilled hunters such as BTBowhunter, Bawanajim, DougE, Blkpowder, bowtruck, livbucks, and pats? They are all alowed to shoot a buck and two doe and they are allowed to roam around on that 600 square mile tract of land as they wish.

I didn't know male zebra's got pregnant?

SInce he's a male zebra, Wonder if the father was a horse, if the baby will still be call a zorse?

I'm not sure what your point is but I'll try to answer anyway.I imagine the same thing will happen that's been happening.The northern tier will see very little pressure except on the easiest to access places

It takes very little hunting pressure to harvest less than 4 DPSM and that is why the hunting pressure in 2G is so low.

You know...they say stripes are very slimming! LOL

They ain't working for that dude!:s8:

Your answer is actually quite simple. The hunters on your list obviously have figured out how to adapt and would not all be hunting that same area. They would have figured out during their scouting missions that there was too much activity for the deer in the area and would have moved on to an area that would provide better chances. Maybe one day you'l truly understand the concept of knowing your hunting area and your quarry. Obviously you arent there yet or you wouldnt have asked the question.

Some like walking to the closest comfy looking stump. And think scouting is a total waste. I think i will waste some time that way tomorrow.

Once again you are flat out wrong. here is what happens when 52K + hunters hunt the same are and produce a harvest that exceeds recruitment.


Year antlered harvest antlerless harvest harvest PSM antlerless allocation

2003 10,110 20,370 7.4 52,000 2.55 tags/deer
2004 6,400 13,100 4.7 52,000 3.95 tags/deer
2005 5,000 6,200 2.7 29,000 4.70 tags/deer
2006 7,200 4,600 2.8 19,000 4.10 tags/deer
2007 5,100 6,600 2.8 26,000 3.94 tags/deer
2008 6,800 6,500 3.2 26,00


As you can see the harvest in 2g dropped from 30+K in 2003 to 13+K in 2008 solely due to the effects of HR and ARs.

I didnt expect you to understand and I dont expect that you ever will.........

And I don't expect you will ever be able to handle the truth. I provided the data that shows what happens when 52K hunters produce a harvest that exceeds recruitment and you reply with pure unadulterated nonsense.

I saw five deer tonight, eating my clover.:woot:

Considering that 2004 3.95 tags/deer
2007 3.94 tags/deer
Doesnt look all that bad 05,06 tags/deer was more 05 being worst 06,07 both improved from 05. Whats the prob

well you must have half the deer herd from your whole managment unit there JIM:D

My goal is to have em all.:party0005:

Had a friend in from Florida and we spent a few days at camp this week. Cruised our corner of 2F two evenings for about an hour till dark and saw lots of new "recruits" :woot:

Had some backstraps over an open fire last night. Nothing like venison that you can cut with a fork to remind us why we spend so much time scouting all those different hunting spots.
:party0005:

The problem is those harvests have produced the lowest deer density of any WMU along with the lowest harvest rates in an area that was once the center of deer hunting in the state.

There you go again! WRONG!!!

The mortality studies showed that only a fraction of the does that died in 2G were killed by hunters but you continue to ignore that fact.

That is absolutely ridiculous claim. The PGC biologist clearly stated that the rates in the mortality study did not reflect the true harvest rates for deer that weren't tagged.

The simple fact is that the large antlerless harvests in 2003 and 2004 resulted in harvests that exceeded recruitment which resulted in the lowest DD and the lowest harvest rates in the state and the PGC data clearly shows that to be true despite the spin and propaganda spread by you and RSB.

Wrong again. They did NOT say that the rates DID NOT refllect the true harvest. They said MAY NOT. Big difference! They merely acknowledged that tagged deer COULD HAVE been left alone by hunters. Of course, the new study with less visible tags will clear that up, but you are denying the facts of the study and have chosen to ignore that hunters are obviously not the primary reason for the decline in deer numbers in 2G.

Only a fool would use the results from a doe mortality study conducted in 2007 to deny the effects of HR that occurred from 2000 to 2005. One has to be extremely gullible to believe that the same habitat that supported 19 PS DPSM in 2003 could only support 12 PS DPSM in 2005,while ignoring the fact that the harvest in 2003 removed 7.4 DPSM and the 2004 harvest removed 4.7 DPSM. If those deer hadn't been harvested the OW herd would have increased by over 12 DPSm instead of decreasing by 7 PS DPSM.

Priceless!! LMAOROTF!!

You must be laughing at yourself, because you can't produce anything to refute the facts I posted.

That alone is a real knee slapper. :s5:

Now thats is pure Comedy..