Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
06-30-2009, 12:28 PM
#31
Nontypical Buck
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RE: Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
The deer populations would never have got that high had it not been for having several years of excellent mast crop years being combined with virtually no adverse or deep winter snow conditions. Those ideal environmental factors combined with record low female deer harvests allowed the deer herd to very rapidly increase way beyond what the habitat could sustain long term.
06-30-2009, 02:33 PM
#32
Typical Buck
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RE: Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
ORIGINAL: bluebird2
That is just pure unadulterated nonsense!!! In 1993 we had the worst winter in the last 50 years with record snowfall, record low temperature and a record 90 days of continuous snow cover. Yet in 1994 we still harvested 157K buck and 238K doe and that was followed by a buck harvest of 182K doe and 248 K doe. The simple fact is that if we didn't have 5 or 6 years when the harvest exceeded recruitment the herd would have continued to increase to over 2M PS deer and the herd would have still been below the MSY carrying capacity of the habitat
The deer populations would never have got that high had it not been for having several years of excellent mast crop years being combined with virtually no adverse or deep winter snow conditions. Those ideal environmental factors combined with record low female deer harvests allowed the deer herd to very rapidly increase way beyond what the habitat could sustain long term.
Though the 1993 had a lot of snow it was not continuous and there was a break in the middle where the snow melted off before the next snow fall, at least in this part of the state. It was also just one year of snow, following a good mast crop and several years when hunter deer harvests had been increased allowing for better over winter deer habitat.
Even though deer populations can be adversely impacted from one harsh winter they usually aren’t and recover very quickly from just one bad winter. It is when you have two or more consecutive harsh winter when the deer are forced to use the limited wintering grounds habitats that deer population declines really become noticeable to the hunters. That is especially true following a series of years when harvests have been low and the deer used up their winter food supplies all summer, which is exactly what occurred prior to the 2002 winter. Then when the winter 2003 arrived and once again forced the deer into the already ravished wintering grounds the stage was set for a major deer population crash with several years of reduced deer numbers and poor fawn recruitment.
You might not like those facts but denying them is nothing more then refusing to learn from the past and from natures lessons.
R.S. Bodenhorn
06-30-2009, 02:42 PM
#33
Giant Nontypical
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RE: Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
ORIGINAL: R.S.B.
Even though deer populations can be adversely impacted from one harsh winter they usually aren’t and recover very quickly from just one bad winter. It is when you have two or more consecutive harsh winter when the deer are forced to use the limited wintering grounds habitats that deer population declines really become noticeable to the hunters. That is especially true following a series of years when harvests have been low and the deer used up their winter food supplies all summer, which is exactly what occurred prior to the 2002 winter. Then when the winter 2003 arrived and once again forced the deer into the already ravished wintering grounds the stage was set for a major deer population crash with several years of reduced deer numbers and poor fawn recruitment.
You might not like those facts but denying them is nothing more then refusing to learn from the past and from natures lessons.
R.S. Bodenhorn
Even though deer populations can be adversely impacted from one harsh winter they usually aren’t and recover very quickly from just one bad winter. It is when you have two or more consecutive harsh winter when the deer are forced to use the limited wintering grounds habitats that deer population declines really become noticeable to the hunters. That is especially true following a series of years when harvests have been low and the deer used up their winter food supplies all summer, which is exactly what occurred prior to the 2002 winter. Then when the winter 2003 arrived and once again forced the deer into the already ravished wintering grounds the stage was set for a major deer population crash with several years of reduced deer numbers and poor fawn recruitment.
You might not like those facts but denying them is nothing more then refusing to learn from the past and from natures lessons.
R.S. Bodenhorn
06-30-2009, 03:22 PM
#34
Typical Buck
Join Date: Jan 2009
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RE: Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
Then when the winter 2003 arrived and once again forced the deer into the already ravished wintering grounds the stage was set for a major deer population crash with several years of reduced deer numbers and poor fawn recruitment.
06-30-2009, 04:25 PM
#35
Nontypical Buck
Join Date: Apr 2008
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RE: Hey RSB, How Much Would This Cost a GUY?
Though the 1993 had a lot of snow it was not continuous and there was a break in the middle where the snow melted off before the next snow fall, at least in this part of the state. It was also just one year of snow, following a good mast crop and several years when hunter deer harvests had been increased allowing for better over winter deer habitat.
That is especially true following a series of years when harvests have been low and the deer used up their winter food supplies all summer, which is exactly what occurred prior to the 2002 winter. Then when the winter 2003 arrived and once again forced the deer into the already ravished wintering grounds the stage was set for a major deer population crash with several years of reduced deer numbers and poor fawn recruitment.
It must be time for bed ole bb is almost sounding right
