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High deer densities may actually be good for some other species?!?!?!

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Old 05-07-2009 | 07:52 AM
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btb douge So you are saying if i hit a deer id be making the insurance company money right?
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Old 05-07-2009 | 07:57 AM
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No offence taken.Ialso take everything they say with a grain of salt.However,I have close to 20 years worth of experience to make an informed decision on.Loss ratios are very important to me and deer claims are the least of my worries.If we totally eliminateddeer,the claims from one bad winter would easily more than make up for those gains.You also have to remeber that the cost to repair and replace vehicles doesn't godown over time.

Deer claims are a very tiny piece of the overall picture.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 08:00 AM
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btb douge So you are saying if i hit a deer id be making the insurance company money right?
No one said that.We're saying that the insurance company based on past experience,alreadycalculated that loss.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 08:37 AM
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btb douge So you are saying if i hit a deer id be making the insurance company money right?
When you individually hit a deer, you generate a cost to the insurance company. But collectively, your deer claim as well as thousands of ohthers form the basis from which they determine the premiums thay charge.

Like the pound of nails on the hardware store shelf, it's a cost of doing business.It doesnt quite work as directly as when you buy that pound of nails but it's close. Deer cause a cost of x per policyholder. The insurance company charges that cost plus their profit and operating costs of y for that coverage.y is a percentage of x so if x (claims per driver) gets bigger so does y (profit per driver)

Just as the hadware store makes more money by selling more pounds of nails, the insurance comapnies actually benefit IN THE LONG TERM from a higher level of PREDICTABLE claims.

All that having been said, and even more importantly, the insurance companies lobbying for less deer would be proprtional to Doug or myself counting paper clips in our insurance agencies. It is so insignificant andsuch a very small number in the big scheme of things that it doesnt even get their attention in a state that ranks among the highest states for deer car collisions.
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Old 05-07-2009 | 08:58 AM
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btb douge So you are saying if i hit a deer id be making the insurance company money right?
When you individually hit a deer, you generate a cost to the insurance company. But collectively, your deer claim as well as thousands of ohthers form the basis from which they determine the premiums thay charge.

Like the pound of nails on the hardware store shelf, it's a cost of doing business.It doesnt quite work as directly as when you buy that pound of nails but it's close. Deer cause a cost of x per policyholder. The insurance company charges that cost plus their profit and operating costs of y for that coverage.y is a percentage of x so if x (claims per driver) gets bigger so does y (profit per driver)

Just as the hadware store makes more money by selling more pounds of nails, the insurance comapnies actually benefit IN THE LONG TERM from a higher level of PREDICTABLE claims.

All that having been said, and even more importantly, the insurance companies lobbying for less deer would be proprtional to Doug or myself counting paper clips in our insurance agencies. It is so insignificant andsuch a very small number in the big scheme of things that it doesnt even get their attention in a state that ranks among the highest states for deer car collisions.

I think I get it. Sort of like (x)=the number of deer, and (y)= the number of hunters, and as x decreases, and y remains (relatively) constant, the variable of (N) representing the allocation of tags must increase to maintain the herd at the same levels, to give you the current sum-(BS).Gives you the scientific formula for deer mangement in PA: (Y+N)-X=BS
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Old 05-07-2009 | 04:35 PM
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btb douge So you are saying if i hit a deer id be making the insurance company money right?
When you individually hit a deer, you generate a cost to the insurance company. But collectively, your deer claim as well as thousands of ohthers form the basis from which they determine the premiums thay charge.

Like the pound of nails on the hardware store shelf, it's a cost of doing business.It doesnt quite work as directly as when you buy that pound of nails but it's close. Deer cause a cost of x per policyholder. The insurance company charges that cost plus their profit and operating costs of y for that coverage.y is a percentage of x so if x (claims per driver) gets bigger so does y (profit per driver)

Just as the hadware store makes more money by selling more pounds of nails, the insurance comapnies actually benefit IN THE LONG TERM from a higher level of PREDICTABLE claims.

All that having been said, and even more importantly, the insurance companies lobbying for less deer would be proprtional to Doug or myself counting paper clips in our insurance agencies. It is so insignificant andsuch a very small number in the big scheme of things that it doesnt even get their attention in a state that ranks among the highest states for deer car collisions.

I think I get it. Sort of like (x)=the number of deer, and (y)= the number of hunters, and as x decreases, and y remains (relatively) constant, the variable of (N) representing the allocation of tags must increase to maintain the herd at the same levels, to give you the current sum-(BS).Gives you the scientific formula for deer mangement in PA: (Y+N)-X=BS

I figured you wouldnt be able to understand a 9th grade algebra example
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Old 05-08-2009 | 01:06 AM
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hmmmmm,,,apple pie alamode for breakfast????? i guess there are worse menus
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Old 05-08-2009 | 04:09 AM
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I figured you wouldnt be able to understand a 9th grade algebra example
LOL ...I actually took algebra in 8th grade, and passed with a B+ average. Sorry to hear you were held back a year for slow development![:'(]
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Old 05-08-2009 | 09:30 AM
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Looks good to me SS. I had Algebra 3, trig, calculus, etc. etc... And that is the exact same answer I came up with.
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Old 05-08-2009 | 05:00 PM
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Looks good to me SS. I had Algebra 3, trig, calculus, etc. etc... And that is the exact same answer I came up with.
Funny when i was in school we had none of that.We did have geometry
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