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ORIGINAL: blkpowder Doug,glad to see you suggest to contact the manufacturer if a person has any questions on how the chemical should be applied. Alot of people have the attitude,what can it hurt? You should never guess with chemicals! Also, where do you purchase your permanone? BIO-SPOT has killed a few dogs and its a rec dog tick repellent. that HARTZ 2/1 at wal-mart does work. but best for dog is ADVANTIX K-9 BUT IT IS EXPENSIVE BUT CAN BE FOUND ON NET FOR 52 DOLLARS FOR 6 MONTHS. some are puttingtick collars on their dogs and the advantix 9. thats to much poison on your dog. anything you put on your dog is absorbed into his system. PERMANONE is available at WAL-MART in camping section. |
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ORIGINAL: DougE crokit,permanone is a brand name.You can buy it at wall mart.It's a copper colored can with a blue lid.You spray it on your coths and it will last for over two weeks.I keep a can in my truck at all times and A pair of pants and shirt sprayed down at all times.If i know I'm going to the woods,I just put those cloths on.This works wonders.It's doesn't repel them however,it kills them after they're on you for a few minutes. As far as dogs go,I buy a concentrated version of the active ingrediant permetherine at Tractor supply.It's about $5 for a small 8 ounce bottle that you mix with water.This stuff is designed for livestock but I imagine it would work on dogs.Probably best to ask you vet first or call the manufacturer.I use it on my horses and it does work.I may be wrong but I think the brand permanone has something in it that bonds to fabric so it may not be as effective if you spray it on animals.Again,I may be wrong about that. I seriouisly wouldn't consider going in the woods from now until the first frost without spraying down with permanone or another variation of permetherine. i put my dog in front seat with me.i know those ticks are possibly coming off him then,at home he sleeps on couch. dang TICKS, i hate them..........[:@] i know ticks are on him. |
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This time of year it is best to completely shave your dog!:D A friend of mine who has a friend said he was told bya conservation agent that ticks were almost extinct back in the 70s but they transplanted them and now the population is soaring. I have always thought of having a tick breeding farm just so I could have the tax write off. Actually the 70s were a time that I do not remember too well.;)
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it was easy for state to get rid of deer here in pa. but ticks, they have no answer.
those ticks should bring in lots of tourist:) |
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They need to stock guinea hens . I've read they are very good at controlling ticks.:)
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ORIGINAL: bluebird2 They need to stock guinea hens . I've read they are very good at controlling ticks.:) what would be the GHPSM on them in wmu2g:eek: |
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Your symptoms were psychsomatic Sproul.
Lymes is a slow progressing disease. You did the right thing getting medical attention tho. |
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ORIGINAL: livbucks Your symptoms were psychsomatic Sproul. Lymes is a slow progressing disease. You did the right thing getting medical attention tho. penn state when i called said most SYMSTONS show up 3 days to 2 weeks after bite. some show up 6 months later. some have BULLSEYE,other dont. some have RASH,others dont. most ticks with 8 legs carry the LYMES,some without 8 legs carry LYMES. some vets dont believe in LYMES shot,their dogs are getting LYMES. some of us say, OH I DONT HAVE BULLSEYE,I AM OK. 6 months later, HEART PROBLEMS. neighbor makes big money, but cheap. i said, HAVE YOUR DOG GIVEN LYMES SHOT. he said, SPROUL ITS WASTE OF MONEY,NOT NEEDED. last fall his dog was dragging its rear legs accross field near my home. it was limping before that and had hard time getting up. well, HIS DOG HAS LYMES DISEASE. did you know that 75% of horses are getting lymes but only 10% of ticks are carrying it. this was all info from penn state co-op. did you know guiena hens will eat the ticks, i am getting 2 for my yard next week, if i am allowed.:D |
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I just pulled one of them off less than a week ago . . . and another one last night. I just came back from the doctor with a prescription - I got lyme disease . . . and the rash to prove it from the bite last week.
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dave, can you explain the test they did for you and how long the tick,you think was on you.
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I have learned a bit about the tests lately after a bit of a scare.
The first, cheapest test is called the ELISA test. It can be somewhat unreliable and can miss the disease. The second test is called the Western Blot test and is more conclusive. If, by chance you have had the Lymerix vaccine, youmay still contract the disease. The ELISA test will always be positive after the vacccine. The Western Blot test must be conducted differently for those who have had the vaccine or a false positivecan result. Many doctors arent that well versed on this either as I found out. If you have symptoms and the first test is negative, insist on the second test. Also, the bullseye rash that everyone knows is easily spotted is only present in about 60% of cases.. The third,and most invasive test is the one where they actually draw fluid from an arhritic joint to look for thespirochete germ because it is said to hide in jointsmaking it fairly resistant to antibiotics. If it's allowed to go long enough, some symptoms can last years even after the infection hasbeen cured. |
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The third, and most invasive test is the one where they actually draw fluid from an arhritic joint to look for the spirochete germ because it is said to hide in joints making it fairly resistant to antibiotics. Is that the test they used to confirm you had Lyme? |
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Actually, I got some good news last week. I'm not 100% on the terminolgy but to my understanding, the second Western Blot done in a specifically different way for a lyme vaccinated person seems to have ruled out a current viable case. Now I just have to wait and watch. Still waiting for a third opinion to be sure butso far so good. If I get any hesitation from the infectuous disease specialist, I'll have the joint fluid tested.
Tell your friend not to not simply accept it the first or even second time that the docs tell him it's not lyme. Make sure he at least gets the western blot test. Some insurances balk at the cost but tell him to be persistent. |
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I have also learned that there has been a cottage industry of quacks out there with all kind of "new" treatments as well.
There are too many docs out there with too little knowledge of lyme and also a few unscrupulous quacks.Tell him to choose his docs carefully. It seems the farther east you go in the state, the more lyme literate the docs seem to be. |
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